Hello,
Sorry for the late answer, I had to reinstall my Linux partition
I've came back to Xubuntu Oenreric Ocelot (11.10), unfortunately before an
advice has been given to this mailing list for Fedora 16 and Gnome 3. So
i'm not able to follow it right now.
So, in Xubuntu, I tried to install Swee
Here are my recommendations:
Do not use the latest Ubuntu and its derivatives:
It is not ready for sugar installation.
Use Ubuntu-11.04 or a derivitive :
1-)http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Sweets_Distribution_0.94
Sweets Distribution is easier to use for
Hello everyone,
this is the entire list of patches that are applied to the official
Dextrose 3 Sugar packages, but were not part of Dextrose 2:
sugar:
1. Add quz and aym to ALL_LINGUAS (take 2) (bernie)
2. updater: Only pre-select already installed activities (fixes SL#2822,
AU#383) (Ajay Garg
Thank you for your answer,
i've just set up a Xubuntu 11.04, I'm now going furhter with Sugar
installation ^^
2011/12/5 Thomas C Gilliard
> **
> Here are my recommendations:
>
> Do not use the latest Ubuntu and its derivatives:
> It is not ready for sugar installation.
>
> Use Ubuntu-11.04 or
At last, I managed to login in a Sugar session : that way it will be easier
to import my sugar works into the sugar session.
And Pippy works also, the only thing I would like to do and that I can't
manage, is to launch the Camera example.
Many thanks for your help :)
2011/12/5 laurent bernabe
(sorry for cross posting, not sure that Support-gang was the best place, hope
to have more luck here :-)
Hi all,
A friend of mine works on a book on Green Design Patterns: It means how a good
software design could help to reduce the carbon footprint of a computer.
In my opinion, Sugar
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Sascha Silbe
wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> this is the entire list of patches that are applied to the official
> Dextrose 3 Sugar packages, but were not part of Dextrose 2:
>
> sugar:
> 1. Add quz and aym to ALL_LINGUAS (take 2) (bernie)
> 2. updater: Only pre-select
> I will be sure to communicate to this list (and especially directly to
> Bernie) as that work moves forward, especially once we get an upstream
> commit of the glibc locales.
Please ping me too if you modify the locale definitions, as we don't
get them from glibc for TOAST.
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:48:40AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Sorry for the late answer, I had to reinstall my Linux partition
>
> I've came back to Xubuntu Oenreric Ocelot (11.10), unfortunately before an
> advice has been given to this mailing list for Fedora 16 and Gnome 3. So
2011/12/5 Rubén Rodríguez :
>
>> I will be sure to communicate to this list (and especially directly to
>> Bernie) as that work moves forward, especially once we get an upstream
>> commit of the glibc locales.
>
> Please ping me too if you modify the locale definitions, as we don't
> get them from
Hello everyone,
I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010.
- I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter 5 :
inheriting from Activity.activity)
- I've modified, carefully i think, the svg picture with Inkscape and
edited the xml structure
- I i
Laurent,
I don't have experience with Sweets, but normally you would install the
version of Sugar that comes with your distribution. When you launch this
Sugar comes up in a window. So you have your GNOME desktop where you do
your development work, plus you have this window that contains a Sugar
Ok, thank you for your answer, I've well understood.
I'm going to apply your advice.
Regards
2011/12/5 James Simmons
> Laurent,
>
> I don't have experience with Sweets, but normally you would install the
> version of Sugar that comes with your distribution. When you launch this
> Sugar comes u
Unfortunately, I can't launch setup.py from the host system terminal
=> no module called sugar.activity
And that error disappear if I launch setup.py from the sugar emulator
2011/12/5 laurent bernabe
> Ok, thank you for your answer, I've well understood.
> I'm going to apply your advice.
>
> Re
Laurent,
This may be an issue with sweets. If you are using Fedora then all you
really need to do is to install the Sugar RPM's that come with the
distribution. Other distributions should have something similar. The
module sugar.activity is a set of Python classes. It should be available
to an
Thank you,
You're right, I just want to develop activities, not hacking Sugar (at
least, not right now, as I am just starting).
My current Linux system is Xubuntu :
- First, I had tried the sugar-emulator provided by Canonical => I did
not find which package to install in order to have the
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 03:28:12PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> And Pippy works also, the only thing I would like to do and that I
> can't manage, is to launch the Camera example.
Does the Record activity work?
Do you have a camera?
Does any other Linux application work with the camera?
--
Laurent,
I found a web page where it says to run this:
sudo aptitude install sugar sugar-activities sugar-emulator
With RPM's on Fedora dependencies are handled automatically. I don't see
why this would be any different. It sounds like you're getting Python
libraries that are only visible from
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:28:15PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010.
>
>
> * I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter 5 :
> inheriting from Activity.activity)
> * I've modified, carefully
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:00:40PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Unfortunately, I can't launch setup.py from the host system terminal
> => no module called sugar.activity
>
> And that error disappear if I launch setup.py from the sugar emulator
This means that the shell environment is different
Thanks
- I have sugar-session-0.90 installed on my computer
- I looked at my PYTHONPATH, and it is still empty : I'm going to look
for the sugar libraries folder, then if I've found it, to modify my
PYTHONPATH
2011/12/5 James Simmons
> Laurent,
>
> I found a web page where it says
I have a webcam integrated to my laptop computer
And I managed to take a photo with it, during the xubuntu installation
setup.
=> Something makes me say that I missed a binding (the camera example
complained about the jpeg format)
I did not test the record example yet.
___
I forgot to mention that the only way I got most of Pippy examples to work,
was by installing Sweet distribution => with the standard emulator given in
xubuntu packages, I did not manage. So maybe it is a bigger problem than
setting the PYTHONPATH.
2011/12/5 laurent bernabe
> Thanks
>
>- I
dpkg --listfiles python-sugar-toolkit-0.90 | grep bundlebuilder
=> /usr/share/pyshared/sugar/activity/bundlebuilder.py
I tried to print the command
env | sort > outputfile
on the sugar emulator, but I can't use the AltGr Key without the emulator
to "validate" the line and prevent me from going on.
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:32:02PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> I forgot to mention that the only way I got most of Pippy examples to
> work, was by installing Sweet distribution => with the standard
> emulator given in xubuntu packages, I did not manage. So maybe it is a
> bigger problem than s
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:26:17PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> I have a webcam integrated to my laptop computer
> And I managed to take a photo with it, during the xubuntu installation setup.
>
> => Something makes me say that I missed a binding (the camera example
> complained about the jpeg
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:28:15PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010.
>
>
>- I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter 5 :
>inheriting from Activity.activity)
>- I've modified, carefull
Ok, Thanks. As James Simons advised me, I uninstalled Sweet distribution
from my linux system.
I would like to make the standard sugar emulator (this wich is given by
Canonical) to work with Pippy, and to work with activities setup.py
But it seems that many things are still to set ...
2011/12/5
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 10:49:21PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:28:15PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I am following the ActivitiesGuideSugar pdf from august 2010.
> >
> >
> >- I've fetched tutorial source code for etext activity (chapter
Do you think an installation of Trisquel-Gnome-Sugar5.0-Alpha instead of
Xubuntu will solve my problems ?
2011/12/5 laurent bernabe
> Ok, Thanks. As James Simons advised me, I uninstalled Sweet distribution
> from my linux system.
>
> I would like to make the standard sugar emulator (this wich i
Oh sorry Aleskey, but I did not understand many things in your crossed post
(the one you posted at 23:57 from a Paris meridian -> UTC+1 ?)
2011/12/6 laurent bernabe
> Do you think an installation of Trisquel-Gnome-Sugar5.0-Alpha instead of
> Xubuntu will solve my problems ?
>
> 2011/12/5 laurent
Ubuntu 11.04 based:
If you do not require a desktop plus sugar and do not need non free software
Try Trisquel-sugar-5.0
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast
Boot CD and try it and if it is OK then install it to HD
or use this .img to dd write a persistent USB
http://wiki.sugarl
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:55:44PM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Ok, Thanks. As James Simons advised me, I uninstalled Sweet
> distribution from my linux system.
You could install it again. Use what works for you.
> I would like to make the standard sugar emulator (this wich is given by
> Cano
So, what's the best solution in my case, for Pippy
=> installing sweet distribution or avoiding it ? And is it a trouble if a
switched multiple times between sweets and ubuntu standard package version
of sugar emulator ?
What is the best way to show you that my camera is functionnal ? I can
transf
Laurent,
My advice was based on my experience with Fedora. Based on what you're
seeing it would make sense to uninstall Canonical's Sugar (since it seems
to have the same issue with not having the sugar libraries in the
PYTHONPATH that Sweets does) and give Sweets another try. It sounds like
wit
Unfortunately, I will need some of the non-free packages (above all for
music and proprietary drivers of my graphic card).
So, maybe I should avoid Trisquel
2011/12/6 Thomas C Gilliard
> Ubuntu 11.04 based:
> If you do not require a desktop plus sugar and do not need non free
> software
> Try T
I don't have any XO bundle, so I can give all my attention to the
integration of Sugar on my laptop.
So sweet is the best solution, I'm going to put it back.
So that the only problem will remain the launchment of setup.py install.
___
Sugar-devel mailing
Hi Simon et al.,
sugar-toolkit-gtk3 is starting to get into shape (branch
silbe-rework-20111205). Remaining issues:
1. 7431584: Restructure for new /usr/bin/sugar-activity behaviour
(Daniel Drake)
This patch, back-ported to the GTK2 sugar-toolkit, and it's sugar
counterpart shou
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:11:37AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> So, what's the best solution in my case, for Pippy
> => installing sweet distribution or avoiding it ?
For Pippy, install Sweets.
> And is it a trouble if a switched multiple times between sweets and
> ubuntu standard package vers
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:19:20AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> I don't have any XO bundle, so I can give all my attention to the integration
> of Sugar on my laptop.
An .xo bundle is created by dist_xo option of setup.py.
You can do this (creating an .xo bundle) using "python setup.py dist_xo
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:02:02AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Do you think an installation of Trisquel-Gnome-Sugar5.0-Alpha instead of
> Xubuntu will solve my problems ?
Well, the whole purpose for Sweets is to avoid situation when people
need to install the whole GNU/Linux distribution only
Hi,
I have an ACER notebook with Ubuntu 11.10
I install the "sugar-emulator" and works good..
For install an activity, like an XO from the Journal or with the Terminal
Activity.
Out of the emulator, to install an activity:
put the .xo in the "activities folder" (/home/user/Activities/" and chang
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 06:26:33PM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Starting from the recent times, translation[1] on Sugar IRC channels
> stopped working properly (messages started being skipped). This feature
> is disabled entirely for now, since missed IRC posts on translated channels
>
Ok, that answer make really sense to me : particularly the distro changing
avoidment ^^
I'll make all tests you want me too, if it can help to find what is wrong.
(I've saved my system in a ghost image on last morning ^^)
2011/12/6 Aleksey Lim
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:02:02AM +0100, laurent
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 11:52:44PM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote:
> I try the Peppy activity (version 34) and works all except the
> camera...
It will never work unless someone tells me what it says is wrong!
It works fine for me. I've tested version 40 and 43. Perhaps you
should try th
Ok for the message digest => turned off
You're right, I didn't know about the posting style.
Here the stack trace for the camera example
---
File "<>/.sugar/default/org.laptop.Pippy/tmp/pippy_app.py" line 35
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:19:13AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> Here the stack trace for the camera example
> File "<>/.sugar/default/org.laptop.Pippy/tmp/pippy_app.py" line 35,
> in
>image = pygame.image.load('/tmp/pippypic.jpg')
> pygame.error : Unsupported image format
Thanks! This m
> It will never work unless someone tells me what it says is wrong!
>
> It works fine for me. I've tested version 40 and 43. Perhaps you
> should try the latest version instead of version 34?
Sorry, I'm wrong.. The Peppy version was 43...
> Actually, camera example in Pippy uses pygame and gst.
Thank you Alan :) I've progressed ^^
- I've download the version 43 of Pippy and installed it on my
home/Activities folder
- when i restarted emulator, i was able to run XOlympic, Physics,
Playsine and Sequence
- the Camera example still send me an error => (line 35 of pippy_app.py
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:40:45AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> * the Playwave and GetSoundList both seems to be requiring tam tam edit
> activity (which i will download and install) : the stacktrace is too long
> for me to copy it hand by hand, as I did not manage to copy/paste the
>
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 04:19:44PM +0100, Lionel Laské wrote:
> (sorry for cross posting, not sure that Support-gang was the best place, hope
> to have more luck here :-)
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> A friend of mine works on a book on Green Design Patterns: It means how a
> good softwa
>From your new command error, i know now that I need to install gst-launch :
i'll retry after having installed it
2011/12/6 James Cameron
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:19:13AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> > Here the stack trace for the camera example
> > File "<>/.sugar/default/org.laptop.Pipp
No, it is the same computer for email and emulator : but when I click on
Pippy terminal, my selection disappear and I'm not allowed to copy it. I
did not manage with the toolbar neither (the copy menu did nothing in fact).
2011/12/6 James Cameron
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:40:45AM +0100, laure
I've installed the gst utility, then run your command => no error
I went in /tmp folder and see a "strange" capture from my webcam named
pippypic.jpg
But camera example still return the same problem (sorry but the copy
command from the toolbar did not copied content to clipboard) : cannot
recogniz
It does not work neither : I think that my host system clipboard is not
connected to the emulator clipboard.
2011/12/6 Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
>
> The menu, copy to the Sugar clipboard.. Check it in the left part of the
> "framework".. Appears an icon..
> And you can open with another activity
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:59:52AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> I've installed the gst utility, then run your command => no error
> I went in /tmp folder and see a "strange" capture from my webcam named
> pippypic.jpg
What do you mean by "strange"? Was the image good? Could you see the
image
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:47:08AM +, Aleksey Lim wrote:
> In my mind, it is mostly nothing about Sugar [learning environment],
> but about OLPC's efforts of creating XO laptops. Moreover, Sugar
> [learning environment] might be considered as a bad example for Green
> Design Patterns, because i
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:59:52AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> > I've installed the gst utility, then run your command => no error
> > I went in /tmp folder and see a "strange" capture from my webcam named
> > pippypic.jpg
>
> What do you mean by "strange"? Was the image good? Could you s
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 02:03:35AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> It does not work neither : I think that my host system clipboard is not
> connected to the emulator clipboard.
Yes, that's one negative aspect of using emulator.
So you can only paste using emulator. Browse activity?
--
James C
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:52:20AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:59:52AM +0100, laurent bernabe wrote:
> > > I've installed the gst utility, then run your command => no error
> > > I went in /tmp folder and see a "strange" capture from my webcam named
> > > p
> In that case, the problem is not Sugar or Pippy, and you can work with
> your Linux distribution support community to determine the problem. My
> guess is that it has something to do with the camera hardware, driver,
> or gst.
But the Record Activity works perfect... And another aplications fo
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 02:00:07AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote:
> > In that case, the problem is not Sugar or Pippy, and you can work with
> > your Linux distribution support community to determine the problem. My
> > guess is that it has something to do with the camera hardware, driver,
> What method have you used for displaying the image file? I used qiv and
> gimp.
QIV
>
> Unless someone can fix this, I propose to remove the camera example.
The problem not is the example.. in a XO all the examples run good...
Maybe, modify it..
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 02:16:31AM +, Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn wrote:
> > What method have you used for displaying the image file? I used qiv and
> > gimp.
>
> QIV
Thanks.
> > Unless someone can fix this, I propose to remove the camera example.
>
> The problem not is the example.. in a XO a
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