On 03/26/2013 09:55 PM, Manuel Quiñones wrote:
2013/3/26 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
[...]
We also had periodic design meetings guiding
features.
I wonder if that kind of discussion could be had on the mailing list
rather than in meetings. It's problematic to find a time that works
On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote:
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654
Sugar Platform:
0.98 - 0.98
Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28522/music_keyboard-6.xo
Release notes:
This activity show a piano keyboard, and in
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:
On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote:
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.**org/addon/4654http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4654
Sugar Platform:
0.98 - 0.98
Download Now:
On 03/27/2013 12:27 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote:
On 03/21/2013 08:06 PM, Sugar Labs Activities wrote:
Activity Homepage:
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Sugar
Hello,
here is an initial schedule for 0.100
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Roadmap
Notes:
* Still unclear if it's going to be 0.100 or 1.0. We should probably
decide after we know what the focus of the release is going to be.
* I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it
On 26 March 2013 21:55, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
Right Daniel, could be. At some point of the gtk3 port and touch
feature development it became a waste of efforts to bother the list
with our patches. It was like a theatre play, Simon or me sending a
patch, the other ack-ing or
Thanks for your work... Will be good to start scheduling the next Sugar
major release.
I'm glad because I have been waiting to sinc the documentation team
schedule.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Documentation_Team/Notes/1.0#Schedule
Best regards,
Daniel.
2013/3/27 Daniel Narvaez
IMHO, Feature should not be frozen at the same time than String, UI and ABI
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
here is an initial schedule for 0.100
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Roadmap
Notes:
* Still unclear if it's going
Can you elaborate on the reason? Refining features might require
breaking String/UI/ABI?
On 27 March 2013 15:30, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
IMHO, Feature should not be frozen at the same time than String, UI and ABI
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Daniel Narvaez
In the last testing image, was included the activity Music Keyboard [1]
This activity use code from TamTam suite to generate the sounds,
and a Piano Keyboard widget, to play/display played notes [2].
The widget was designed with the idea of use it in other activities,
hopefully in TamTam when is
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:
Can you elaborate on the reason? Refining features might require
breaking String/UI/ABI?
Usually, we have a date to decide when a Feature is accepted or should be
in the next cycle,
but after that, can be included
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
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On 27 March 2013 15:43, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Usually, we have a date to decide when a Feature is accepted or should be in
the next cycle,
but after that, can be included small changes.
You are probably referring the to feature acceptance deadline here.
Feature freeze does
Important note: this adds a new dependency: PyICU (yum install pyicu
in Fedora).
Improvements:
- The list is now displayed in the actual language of the locale. For
example Deutsch (Deutschland) for 'de_DE' or italiano (Italia)
for 'it_IT'. The translated text is also accompanied by the
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:
On 27 March 2013 15:43, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Usually, we have a date to decide when a Feature is accepted or should
be in
the next cycle,
but after that, can be included small changes.
You are
On 27 March 2013 16:04, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Ok. Then, when should be feature acceptance deadline?
Yeah, that's something I'm stiill thinking about.
As maintainers requested in other threads, it might make sense to try
and narrow the focus of this release and join forces on
The acceptance deadline used to be very near to freeze (one month
earlier). But if we want to narrow the release focus, perhaps it's
good to have this discussion as soon as possible...
+1
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2013/3/27 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
On 26 March 2013 21:55, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
Right Daniel, could be. At some point of the gtk3 port and touch
feature development it became a waste of efforts to bother the list
with our patches. It was like a theatre play,
2013/3/26 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org:
So, it looks like the ICU project is very fast and provides good
output. And reading the project homepage it looks on shape too. Can
we consider a switch to it?
I have sent a patch that does the switch, so people can test and review.
--
.. manuq
Hi all.
I would request to include the following features for the next release
cycle ::
a)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/Multi_selection
* The UI workflow was heavily reviewed by Gary, and all the changes
incorporated.
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for
Hi Ajay,
Should be good you provide patches we can apply on actual sugar
as soon as possible.
Honestly, I am worried about the Multiple Selection. Is a really big change.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.comwrote:
Hi all.
I would request to include the
I'm a bit concerned about using icu, but really just as a gut
reaction, I haven't read the code or researched it much.
It looks like a huge set of libraries, which might be overkill for the
use case of listing languages (did we check if/how much it increases
memory usage?). It seems to partially
On 26 March 2013 20:17, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
And here is the result of profiling them:
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4449#comment:12
I think it would be good to also profile memory usage and to compare
both performance and results with the GNOME control panel.
On 27 March 2013 16:31, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
b)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for inclusion.
Has it been ported to network manager 0.9?
The Benefit to Sugar section is a bit terse.
2013/3/27 Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org:
2013/3/27 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
I'm a bit concerned about using icu, but really just as a gut
reaction, I haven't read the code or researched it much.
It looks like a huge set of libraries, which might be overkill for the
use case of
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
Hi Ajay,
Should be good you provide patches we can apply on actual sugar
as soon as possible.
Great !!!
I will float the patch by this weekend (after duly testing it on
sugar-build on F18).
Honestly, I am worried
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 16:31, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
b)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for inclusion.
Has it
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 16:31, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
b)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for inclusion.
Has it been
On 03/27/2013 01:36 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
Hello,
here is an initial schedule for 0.100
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Roadmap
Notes:
* Still unclear if it's going to be 0.100 or 1.0. We should probably
decide after we know what the focus of the release is going to be.
That sounds
On 27 March 2013 17:39, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
Just one request ::
=
please include the patch ASAP if it works 90% of the time (although it is
working 100% for me at this point :P ).
If it is thought that some minor-change/bug-fix is needed, it can be done
in
On 27 March 2013 16:31, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
b)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for inclusion.
This seems to a self contained control panel extension right? If so
perhaps it should be
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
* I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it actually
worth spending time building those? Is anyone using them?
So far, Fedora has been picking them up and they made their way into the
OLPC images that way. It
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:
On 27 March 2013 17:39, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
Just one request ::
=
please include the patch ASAP if it works 90% of the time (although it is
working 100% for me at this point :P
On 03/27/2013 06:58 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
* I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it actually
worth spending time building those? Is anyone using them?
So far, Fedora has been picking them up and they made
On 27 March 2013 19:01, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
Yes, I understand that :)
My 10% intended any minor UI-tweaks (string change, text-positioning,
etc), that are often not workflow-critical, and very easy to fix.
Obviously, anything that breaks any use-case is a reason enough
On 27 March 2013 19:05, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
On 03/27/2013 06:58 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote:
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
* I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it actually
worth spending time building those? Is
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
About the general strategy, it would be great to foster around a common
goal, to me the html5 activities would fit perfectly here. There is still to
define the exact goals of the feature itself but the research Daniel has
been
On 27 Mar 2013 17:55, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 16:31, Ajay Garg a...@activitycentral.com wrote:
b)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/3G_Support/Database_Support
* The feature is completely GTK3-ported, and ready for inclusion.
This seems to a
On 27 Mar 2013 17:58, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
* I have not allocated dates for unstable tarballs. Is it actually
worth spending time building those? Is anyone using them?
So far, Fedora has been
2013/3/27 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com:
On 27 March 2013 18:47, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
About the general strategy, it would be great to foster around a common
goal, to me the html5 activities would fit perfectly here. There is still to
define the exact goals of the
Extend the sound backend selection code to consider using ALSA.
On XO-1.75 and XO-4 this fixes sound in etoys with squeak-vm-4.x.
It also fixes XO-4 sound recording which was not working on any previous
version.
Index: etoys-5.0.2408/etoys.in
The 3G database support feature, is only take the data to put in the fields
of already existing modem support from the data xml files already used by
Gnome.
Is not a big change, and help to the users of modems.
Also, already received feedback the last cycle, I think is safe try to land
it.
Hi Ajay,
I don't know the specific history of this patch but, as a rule,
patches should be pushed to mainline when they are fully working, or
at least they are thought to be. If the maintainers point out issues,
they should be solved before committing. Often the remainning 10% is
the one
Ok, we seem to have some consensus that this could/should land. I'm
just trying to be defensive about adding features to mantain :)
On 27 March 2013 20:30, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
The 3G database support feature, is only take the data to put in the fields
of already existing
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok, we seem to have some consensus that this could/should land. I'm
just trying to be defensive about adding features to mantain :)
Smart boy ;)
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On 27 March 2013 16:23, Manuel Quiñones ma...@laptop.org wrote:
I know all this can be replaced by a fork pull workflow, and I'm
used to do that in github. But gitorius interface is not as good as
github, in my opinion. By the way, if we have consensus for a fork
pull workflow, I have no
Added unstable releases dates.
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Daniel Narvaez reopened an interesting thread that comes up every
couple of years -- patch approval. This is an interesting and
important issue to both the Sugar community and the OLPC ecosystem.
In parallel to patch process, a discussion about culture might be
beneficial. Sugar and OLPC are
Hi all,
Tuxmath activity is a Sugar best seller. Unfortunately it not works on 0.96+
:-(
The issue is related to activity.info. So, to fix the activity you just
had to download/install the latest version here [1].
Then open Terminal activity and update the activity.info file into
I disagree. A 90% working patch should be reviewed or even accepted,
if it improves the situation more than it degrades the situation.
Don't let the good be the enemy of the perfect.
In particular, if the patch fixes a high priority ticket but opens
three low priority tickets, the project has
I have created a page in the wiki to describe the status of JournalShare
activity.
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/JournalShare
Enjoy Easter
Gonzalo
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It's true, but this comments are in the context of new features,
and specifically big features like the proposed Journal changes.
In this context, if we add 1 feature and 10 bugs, is not a good deal.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:53 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:
I disagree. A
Another option is use http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/nicaragua/Tuxmath-3.xo
and tuxmath packaged in fedora.
Gonzalo
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
Hi all,
** **
Tuxmath activity is a Sugar best seller. Unfortunately it not works on
0.96+ :-(
The
Without reference to the actual patch, adding one major feature and
adding 10 minor bugs is still useful, because it increases testing and
therefore development.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 07:01:21PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
It's true, but this comments are in the context of new features,
and
Don't have sense that works if you patch after install and not if already
patched.The log says anything? and the shell.log?
Another problem with the activity is that was compiled for 0.82.1 in Fedora
9.Maybe is a good time to compile again in newest system (in the activity,there
is a file
Gonzalo
Thanks, Tuxmath on 0.96+ is a problem for the East Timor deployment. I want to
be clear what you are recommending, before I pass the info on to them.
Install your Tuxmath version and sudo yum install tuxmath
Is that right?
Or is the tuxmath packaged in fedora already part of Sugar 0.96?
Well, this shouldn't be taken too literally. I'm not even sure
something like perfect code exists...
My point is more that a patch should be made good enough, in the
maintainer opinion, before landing. Delaying necessary changes after
the patch has been landed is not a good maintenance strategy.
I don't think anything which increases testing and development is
necessarily good. It might do so and hurt the primary goals of the
project.
I also think projects with too many features and too many bugs are not
very useful. Wether that happens at 10 minor bugs per feature or at
1000, I don't
On 27 March 2013 22:49, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
To:
bundle_id = org.ceibaljam.Tuxmath
exec = sugar-activity tuxmath-activity
Once this correction done, the activity works normally !
I don't believe you :P
The correct exec line is
exec = sugar-activity activity.TuxmathStart
For
On 28 March 2013 00:24, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 27 March 2013 22:49, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote:
To:
bundle_id = org.ceibaljam.Tuxmath
exec = sugar-activity tuxmath-activity
Once this correction done, the activity works normally !
I don't believe you :P
The
On 28 March 2013 00:32, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I don't need to change the exec line at all (and doing so
probably breaks things because tuxmath-activity does a lot more).
Renaming service_name to bundle_id is enough to make it work on 0.98
for me.
Or at least it's
On 28 March 2013 00:39, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
On 28 March 2013 00:32, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I don't need to change the exec line at all (and doing so
probably breaks things because tuxmath-activity does a lot more).
Renaming service_name to
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:55 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote:
Gonzalo
Thanks, Tuxmath on 0.96+ is a problem for the East Timor deployment. I
want to be clear what you are recommending, before I pass the info on to
them.
Install your Tuxmath version and sudo yum install tuxmath
Is that
Hey,
want to start on that kind of analysis? :)
I've been considering some cultural factors but they are not related to
prestige and moneys, so they are probably pretty different from what
you have in mind here.
On Wednesday, 27 March 2013, David Farning wrote:
Daniel Narvaez reopened an
I'd just like to point out that when I add a Signed-off-by: to a patch
on Sugar, unless stated (by an OLPC ticket number or otherwise) I
think I'm doing it for technical reasons to benefit Sugar, and not to
support the OLPC ecosystem. I shall be more aware of perceptions of
bias now. Thanks for
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