Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Sam I appreciate your constructive comments. I am sorry that he responded to an offer of help with a derogatory statements addressed at me and indeed, I need to learn to ignore them. James is on 13.2.7, I am on 13.2.5. There is nothing that can be done about that until this summer. I do

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: Hi, Dave I couldn't agree more. I offered to help support a test James requested. His response was an attack on me. It is really hard to keep focus on the positive underlying discussions. Again, I should have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

El 19/04/16 a las 20:30, Justin Overton escribió: > In the meantime I'm trying to find a way to target sugar and Android > without duplicating core logic. If you really like Python, you might get away with using Kivy (https://kivy.org/) in Android and GTK for Sugar. You need to abstract logic

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

At the suggestion of several participants in this thread, I have created a 'feature-like' description of a proposed 'Lion activity' at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Lion_Activity. There seems to a concensus that this is the best way to proceed on this discussion. Tony On 04/21/2016 01:54 AM,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Hi! On 20 April 2016 at 19:16, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:54:58PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > Is it possible to configure the swap to run on the SD card, which, if > failing > > due to thrashing, can easily be replaced? > > When OLPC OS on XO-1

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Hi, Dave I couldn't agree more. I offered to help support a test James requested. His response was an attack on me. It is really hard to keep focus on the positive underlying discussions. Again, I should have applied the 24hour rule. I apologize. In this case the need for an image is also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Hi On 20 April 2016 at 22:32, James Cameron wrote: > No, not at all. There are plenty of ways to test a fix that do not > involve images. Images are the unicorn again. > ... I feel very frustrated. I need fun, and humor, and friendly, happy vibes. I would like to ask you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Call me a whiner. I greatly appreciate your involvement in Sugar Labs. There is no need for you to accommodate me. Naturally, I would appreciate your considering that my time may not be best served by learning how to make an image and installing it with an SD card on an XO-1 to help you

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

No, not at all. There are plenty of ways to test a fix that do not involve images. Images are the unicorn again. If your wish is that I disengage from Sugar Labs, so that someone more suited to your needs can be available, I'll do that, as it's probably about the right time. On Thu, Apr 21,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

Hi On 20 April 2016 at 19:58, James Cameron wrote: > Solution 1 is a change that may lose ticket reporters, > Hmm, do you mean people will refuse to report tickets because its Github? > and creates an > environment where instead of there being one place to report tickets, >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

I understand. At least that should put an end to your accusation of whining. Tony On 04/21/2016 10:03 AM, James Cameron wrote: I don't have the network resources to prepare and upload images on speculation. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 09:58:31AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: James If you have an

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

I don't have the network resources to prepare and upload images on speculation. On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 09:58:31AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > James > > If you have an image you want tested that can be installed on an SD > card for the XO-1, I'll make the time. Since the XO-1 has an early >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

James If you have an image you want tested that can be installed on an SD card for the XO-1, I'll make the time. Since the XO-1 has an early version installed, it should be possible to measure time for various operations. I probably won't realistically be able to devote time until mid-May.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

My rethink. Solution 1 might work, my estimate is 10% probability of it working. Solution 2 might work, my estimate is 5% probability of it working. Solution 0 is do nothing, the status quo, my estimate is 25% probability of it working. Solution 1 is a change that may lose ticket reporters,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:29:21PM -0500, Jerry Vonau wrote: > > > > On April 20, 2016 at 5:54 PM Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > On 20 April 2016 at 18:27, James Cameron wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:22:21PM -0400, Dave Crossland

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

> On April 20, 2016 at 5:54 PM Dave Crossland wrote: > > > Hi > > On 20 April 2016 at 18:27, James Cameron wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:22:21PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > > > On 20 April 2016 at 16:46, James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 06:54:58PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Hi > > On 20 April 2016 at 18:27, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:22:21PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 20 April 2016 at 16:46, James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

Hi On 20 April 2016 at 18:27, James Cameron wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:22:21PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 20 April 2016 at 16:46, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > > the performance ratio between our low-cost > > low-power hardware

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 05:22:21PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 20 April 2016 at 16:46, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > the performance ratio between our low-cost > low-power hardware and the competition was already evident on Fedora > Linux; it didn't need

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On 20 April 2016 at 16:46, James Cameron wrote: > the performance ratio between our low-cost > low-power hardware and the competition was already evident on Fedora > Linux; it didn't need Windows to expose it > Sorry if this is an obvious question, but, can anything done to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding GSoC proposal

Hi Utkarsh, It's probably fine. I think that it is something that you can Tony (Tony is your mentor right?) can talk about and decide on. The *spirit* of the rules about proposal changing seem to be: 1) ensuring that the student continues on a proposal that they are engaged in 2)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:37:13PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:48 AM, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > > but I can not find any evidence that XP was - [...] - ever shipped > > by OLPC, [...] > > None.  Windows XP required a PC architecture,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi! > > Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else > happened to move the proposal forward? Am I right that this will be decided > on at the next SLOB meeting? > > Samson, some more questions

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to decide how / when to share it with the wider community. It is for the SLOB to determine the how / when of discussing the proposal. I am confident that all details

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

​​ agreed, but if we can use instantsearchJS with Mozilla add-ons then it would be great. https://community.algolia.com/instantsearch.js/documentation/#starrating Also we can use readthedocs with custom sphinx theme for documentation features in readthedocs: 1. provides github integration 2. Auto

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

On 20 April 2016 at 13:45, Chris Leonard wrote: > A hypothetical Translate Activity would be a > logical extension of the Sugar HIG concept of showing source code and > have substantial potential ot reach an even wider audience than we do > currently and by implementing

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:57 PM, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 20/04/16 a las 01:15, Chris Leonard escribió: >> Such PO pre-conversion services are provided upon request and offered >> where appropriate as are the complementary re-conversion and upload >> services. >

[Sugar-devel] Beeyond FlashCards [GSOC]

Hi, The project I proposed aims at supporting literacy through programming. The project would utilize various techniques like Completing Techniques,Identifying Objects etc. I was planning to build up my list of tasks for the project :

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

El 20/04/16 a las 01:15, Chris Leonard escribió: > Such PO pre-conversion services are provided upon request and offered > where appropriate as are the complementary re-conversion and upload > services. Ideally we would have a proper Translate Activity that would work directly with git (even

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

On 20 April 2016 at 11:11, Venketesh Mahapatra < mahapatra.venket...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mozilla addons - I think a better alternative may be instantsearchJS > https://community.algolia.com/instantsearch.js/ . It is faster and the UX > is pretty good. > I'm not sure that is an alternative to

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

Hello I have also applied for GSOC 2016. I had an exam so I couldn't reply to the messages. I have some suggestions and doubts regarding the technologies used. I may be wrong in that case please correct me. Mozilla addons - I think a better alternative may be instantsearchJS

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

On 20 April 2016 at 09:54, Justin Overton wrote: > - It would be easier for new developers to find and contribute if it were > on github I agree, this is my primary reason for proposing (1) also: I think the primary problem facing Sugar Labs is the small developer

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

Why I like GitHub best - It would be easier for new developers to find and contribute if it were on github - Support for "how to use git" would be mostly on github rather than SugarLab's systems - Getting existing developers to move their activities out of GitHub doesn't seem

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

On 20 April 2016 at 09:21, Vishal Batchu wrote: > is it possible to let the developer community know why you, Walter and > James are in favour of solution 1 whereas Devin and Sam are in favour of > solution 2? Please read the thread :)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

Hi Dave, When I started contributing to SugarLabs initially, I faced a similar problem. Searching for activities on Github, gitorious and then searching for bugs on trac etc. It would be great if it could all be moved to a single place where it can be accessed easily. Since there is a conflict

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

Hi On 20 April 2016 at 08:35, Walter Bender wrote: > While SLOB can vote on this, personally I think it is up to the developer > community to decide. Sure, that's reasonable. How does the developer community resolve conflicts? > Can you summarize the recent

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding GSoC proposal

Hi Utkash! It is too late, but don't worry :) On 20 April 2016 at 08:44, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote: > Hi, > > I guess it's too late for this but I couldn't add the 'screenshot' > popup prototype I developed to my proposal :( Is there anything I > could do fix it? > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On 20 April 2016 at 00:48, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:33:44PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > Interestingly OLPC also offer XO-4s today with either Fedora+Sugar, > > or Android, or Windows XP. > > No, we only build them with Fedora + Sugar + Gnome.

[Sugar-devel] Regarding GSoC proposal

Hi, I guess it's too late for this but I couldn't add the 'screenshot' popup prototype I developed to my proposal :( Is there anything I could do fix it? Regards, Utkarsh Tiwari ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Issue tracking on Github?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:30 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 4 April 2016 at 10:19, Walter Bender wrote: > >> FWIW, we have had a very hard time keeping hackers out of our trac >> system. Despite extreme measures, SCG still has to manually remove hacked

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:24 AM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Actually 60 but who's counting. > Yes. 2 additional proposals were not complete :) > > > Tony > > > On 04/20/2016 10:53 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Dave Crossland <

Re: [Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] [BROWSE] - Toolbar Expansion and Fiddler Integrations

Hi Utkarsh, This JS Fiddler seems very interesting. Is there a place that I can find more information on it? Is it a separate activity or is it embedded into browse? Thanks, Sam On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Utkarsh Tiwari wrote: Hi, As suggested by

[Sugar-devel] [DESIGN] [BROWSE] - Toolbar Expansion and Fiddler Integrations

Hi, As suggested by Mr. Tony Anderson, I have reworked the UI of the previous year GSoC project (JS Fiddler) by Ms. Richa Sehgal. This modifications will provide for extra space for the extra toolbuttons to be added in future and makes the UI look more clean. I have also re-positioned the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 6:48 AM, James Cameron wrote: > > but I can not find any evidence that XP was - [...] - ever shipped > > by OLPC, [...] > > None. Windows XP required a PC architecture, which the early models > were capable of, and the systems were engineered, but there

Re: [Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

Hi Keep in mind that the purpose of pippy is to provide a development environment for Python. I think this means it needs to become an integrated development environment for javascript. This was the intent of Richa Sehgal's GSOC project last year (to provide a capability like jsfidlle).

Re: [Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

I was feeling really dumb after not being able to find any bugs I could work on. As James Suggested to implement Implode and Pippy , I have already included Implode under my GSoC proposal (Learn For Fun- Sugar Activity), So I think I will go with trying to implement pippy for now. Thanks James

Re: [Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

You could also take a look at https://github.com/walterbender/musicblocks, it has been quite active recently and there are a lot of bugs to fix. Its a JS based activity. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Tony Anderson wrote: > Take a look at how you can contribute to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

Take a look at how you can contribute to Sugarizer. One focus is on converting existing Python activities to work in Sugarizer (and also as sugar-web-activities). Naturally, new activities would also be helpful. Tony On 04/20/2016 04:32 PM, Love Mehta wrote: Hello all, Hope you are doing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

Agreed, there are very few bugs.sugarlabs.org tickets for JavaScript development. My guess is either; 1. it's nearly perfect already, ;-) 2. there are no tickets being logged there, 3. the moderation queue has made ticket creation too difficult. No tickets being logged (2 above) might be

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

> From: cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 02:24:21 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs > To: d...@lab6.com > CC: samsongo...@hotmail.com; s...@unleashkids.org; > sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org; samsongo...@gmail.com; > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org;

[Sugar-devel] Any js related beginner bugs that I can work on

Hello all, Hope you are doing well. I was going through the bugs list at bugs.sugarlabs.org and observed that most of the bugs needed knowledge of python. I have spent much time on the buglist and found a number of bugs interesting to work on but they required the knowledge of python. I am a

Re: [Sugar-devel] metacity is not reaped, bug #4958

Hi James, Thanks, :) I updated the logic flow and also included a Popen.communicate() call to remove the waiting defunct process. Please check. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/682 I was able to reproduce the error and after the patch there was only one process for metacity with Sl+

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

To many cc:s is getting this moderated. Trying again. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:15 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Its been 2 weeks since this thread was last updated; has anything else >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

To many cc:s is getting this moderated. Trying again. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been > presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to > decide how / when to

Re: [Sugar-devel] metacity is not reaped, bug #4958

Thanks, good start. I've updated the bug with a reproducer, and reproduced twice, once on Ubuntu 16.04 and once on Fedora 23 SoaS. I've tried your patch; small logic error causes two instances of metacity to start, and the second one (correctly) exits. The process is still not reaped. Your