On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 00:23 -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
There's no reason to have both a filename and a dbus-like name for the
same thing. The former must already be unique on both distribution sites
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On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 10:06 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 07:13, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
I opened a new ticket (sl#2132) on the sugar-datastore component and it
was automatically assigned to tomeu. I would have expected it to go to
silbe instead
perform full reindexing every N boots, like fsck on old Linux systems?
Naa... users would be annoyed by the useless occasional delay and would
demand a button to fix their journal when they know that some data has
been lost.
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On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 19:21 -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Here's an almost infallible recipe to reproduce it:
1. open Write
2. type something
3. close Write
4. wait a few seconds
5. kill -9 the datastore process
6. restart sugar (ctrl-alt-del)
Your saved entry is gone. It still takes
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file.
The frame icon is updated after every 5 seconds if required.
Similarly, the palette menu entries are updated after every
5 seconds as well.
Signed-off-by: anishmangal2002 anishmangal2...@gmail.com
Merged in Dextrose, thanks.
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name. Which is often the same of the English name, but not
always (Oficina - Paint).
There's no reason to have both a filename and a dbus-like name for the
same thing. The former must already be unique on both distribution sites
and in the Activities directory.
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On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 15:15 +1000, James Cameron wrote:
Ugh. So Write has terminated before data is saved? That's bad. Should
it not wait for data to be fully saved?
I believe data was saved, but the metadata index was not flushed to disk
by the datastore process.
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things to do. Maybe we're still in
time for 0.90.
Before someone asks the standard rhetoric question [*]: following
standards will make it easier to sugarize educational activities and
improve the integration of existing non-native activities.
[*] how does it help learning?
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contain anything. The bundle_id org.tuxpaint.sugar-is-lame worked
flawlessly for all this time.
Yes, this identifier is childish, but conforms precisely to the rules
outlined above, which ensure its uniqueness.
It's not actually conforming, it has hyphens! ;-)
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and SimCity, probably the most popular and
long-lived games of this genre.
I think playing these games in moderation provides an important learning
opportunity.
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the volume of moderation requests, currently the lists are
configured to automatically bounce all posts by non-subscribers. We
cannot afford to keep the lists open for posting because we currently
don't have a spam filter.
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El Wed, 21-07-2010 a las 20:51 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
Hello Jorge,
I know activities are low-priority now, but when you have time it would
be good to try to fix these activities with known problems
El Thu, 22-07-2010 a las 19:06 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió:
the role of administrator for iaep@ and sugar-devel@ has been vacant for
some time, so I've been filling in.
This is incorrect: Luke Faraone has been the administrator of iaep@ for
some time.
I thought I had deleted this first
, so apologies if mails have been getting
stuck in the queue.
Ah, ok. Thanks for taking care of all lists. Then all we need to do is
officialize the status quo by updating the admin contact for the lists
you're moderating to avoid confusing subscribers in need for assistance.
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used by Distance to yield very accurate
results, but in the past I've always seen pseudo-random numbers even
with the X-1.
tv.alterna.Clock
This one does not make much sense until we set the time from ntp (no
need to test it)
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this configurable, or we stop importing the aslo backend.
Once the ASLO microformat support is completed, I'd be in favor of
killing the aslo backend altogether. What do the Sugar maintainers
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branches of
all repositories until October (at least).
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Hello erikos,
you're still marked the owner of the Browse project on
git.sugarlabs.org.
If you don't mind, I'll pass ownership of the project and mainline to
Lucian (or Raul). You will still be able to commit to mainline.
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let's keep our eyes open.
I also noticed an oddity: the scrpt was invoking git-rev-list instead
of git rev-list with no hyphen. I'm puzzled on how it could have
possibly worked before.
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the standard switchdesk package does:
create a ~/.Xclients and ~/.Xclients-default file, which should work
with any display manager as long as they execute xinit.
If olpc-dm does not execute xinit, it probably should.
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for gitorious could be made a lot smarter, but I
have no time to look into it. Anyone else?
I suspect that many irc floods are caused by activity on clones. Perhaps
we could exclude those.
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, so it's foreseeable that
over time they will supplant the F-keys in PC keyboards.
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to diagnose for a
typical Sugar developer who has no knowledge of the lower OS layers.
It's quite obvious to me that we're loosing contributions because
building Sugar is unnecessarily harder than building the Linux kernel or
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in which users may want to choose. At the
UI level, it's more like replacing a binary switch with an analog slider
going from 10 seconds to Never.
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El Fri, 16-07-2010 a las 18:30 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió:
On 16 July 2010 16:50, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
El Fri, 16-07-2010 a las 15:33 -0600, Daniel Drake escribió:
There was a discussion on sugar-devel before that ticket was opened,
the changes had support from
protocol in Sugar. Currently, Sugar uses a custom
handshake protocol which requires activities to do set custom atoms in
their main window and talk over DBus.
There's a sugarize wrapper script which fools Sugar, but it's hardly
an ideal solution.
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to be reset to the beginning of the field.
Tomeu's testcase proved that gtk delivers focus-out-event reliably with
normal buttons. We need to figure out why it doesn't seem to be the case
in toolbars. Maybe we could add a few prints in the callbacks.
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fantastically smooth and productive.
(this is just my own perception, of course. As always, suggestions to
improve our collaboration processes are very welcome).
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advocating a proper build cluster for years. Now that OLPC is
working on an ARM-based platform, it will be clear to anyone why it was
needed.
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: currently,
both the Fedora and Ubuntu teams are spending a lot of time to
re-packaging just a few activities, resulting in duplicated effort and
increased time-to-market for activities.
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On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 08:22 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
On 3 July 2010 16:52, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
I checked: olpc-update-query only sets the clock if it's off by more
than 24hours, so it cannot serve as a replacement for ntpdate.
What's the requirement for super
functionality in Home view. Please join!
This Saturday I'll be in Belo Horizonte, probably without Internet
connection. I'll try to join in if I can.
Thanks,
Christian
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 23:42 +0100, Gary Martin
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On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:36 -0600, Daniel Drake wrote:
On 6 July 2010 15:03, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
Well, granting root access from the console already weakens it to the
point of being useless. Who would bother to setup a fake DHCP, DNS and
NTP server when it takes 20
#editingFinished
It's a pretty useful and obvious feature, even Microsoft's MFC did let
me do it easily in 1992.
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of view, apart
from not logging warnings when the MANIFEST contains inconsistencies.
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is what makes my approach fail.
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with inline comments. git send-email automates
this workflow.
Please note, I haven't got an XS to test this on, so am relying on
maintainter to see if this fixes the bug.
I could test your next version of this patch in a classroom.
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was to listen for changed with a 1-second timeout to
trigger the metadata update. The timeout logic was also buggy, which is
what the patch applied in git fixes.
I can't believe GTK wouldn't offer a reliable way to tell when a user
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for some level of bugs. Bug triage
activity is at a low at the moment. Don't apologise for bringing that
task back up in everyones focus/face.
Low? Not really:
http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/timeline
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is probably the best default. So far, users seem to be ok
with it, though it took them some time to re-adapt on the 0.82 - 0.84
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entries that don't show up in the journal.
(sorry if this should have been obvious by looking at the diff, I'm not
at all familiar with the datastore codebase).
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think of a simpler scheme to perform mutual authentication.
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I can't check 'Software Update' affects.]
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of letting children and teachers upgrade their
laptops without relying on technicians to do it. To lower the barrier,
it's important to make the Register procedure free of quirks.
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Wow, 2MB of RSS! I had no idea ntp was such a hog.
Aside from quirks like this one, is time on the XO normally good enough?
I would have to check...
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-featured packaging system, which
would also solve the problem that the MANIFEST was supposed to address.
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El Fri, 02-07-2010 a las 20:46 +0200, Benjamin Berg escribió:
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Sounds good. We are using some deprecated macros already anyways.
Thanks, pushed.
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. That bug should be fixed.
It seems to happen frequently with Gcompris.
Yes, I would expect only non-Python activities to do it.
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El Sat, 03-07-2010 a las 09:54 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió:
Likely so, but the software should be able to compensate for it. After
discussing it on IRC, it seems that olpc-update-query should
automatically update the clock from the OATS server.
I checked: olpc-update-query only sets
:-)
At some point, I will ask the children and their teachers to comment on
these changes. So far nobody said anything: whether they like it or not,
it's probably not a very big deal for them.
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to wiki.sugarlabs.org and the code to git.sugarlabs.org.
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not have to fork xulrunner too)
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security model,
not simply by bothering the users with a manual registration step which
does not authenticate the schoolserver anyway. Would you agree?
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, it doesn't seem like this will happen in time for 0.90... so
perhaps it won't hurt?
NOTE: the current implementation conflicts with etoys' usage of ctime
and fails to upgrade the index format from version 4 (what 0.88 uses).
Andres is working on fixing both these issues.
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specific feature):
For me, the one on the bottom left is the one which better communicates
the concept of school.
Do you have SVG versions of these icons?
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(tch) can attend.
We've accumulated a whopping 48 Sugar patches which we'd like to see
merged into Sugar 0.90 in some form. I'll post a summary ASAP.
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sugar/pe558-modify-volumnestoolbar-to-mount-a-directory.patch
This patch set has been replaced by Tincho's Journal-based backup/restore
functionality. Keeping these patches around in case someone else prefers
the control panel UI.
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El Wed, 30-06-2010 a las 11:37 +1000, James Cameron escribió:
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 07:54:33PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
We've accumulated a whopping 48 Sugar patches which we'd like to see
merged into Sugar 0.90 in some form. I'll post a summary ASAP.
Patches from deployments
by the schoolserver.
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El Mon, 28-06-2010 a las 14:25 -0400, Walter Bender escribió:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
There were some design proposals from a time long ago and far away
(2006, Pentagram) I believe.
In case we forgot what it looked like, I'd like to propose
?
I'm ok with the one you posted, but I'm not a designer so I'll simply
step back and enjoy the fight :-)
No matter which one you end up selecting, we'll sneak a little Eye of
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or OLPC will
ever want to go back.
In other words, a patch to throw away the OHM support would be indeed
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a Journal feature for
exporting objects to removable volumes without loosing their
accompanying metadata.
Do we preserve metadata on file transfers?
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or to
preserve documents (apparently the Journal still has frequent data
losses).
In the future, we could think of a Journals everywhere feature: let
children initialize any removable media as a secondary journal. Pie in
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El Thu, 24-06-2010 a las 02:24 +, Aleksey Lim escribió:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:58:59PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
El Wed, 23-06-2010 a las 11:08 -0400, Carlos Daniel Garay Ayala
escribió:
Is Fedora 11 for the XO: arch x86, libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc11.i586,
libxml-python-2.7.6-1
to
tolerate it (in good big tent fashion).
The board has also given a strong message in this direction by voting
that Sugar Labs is not in itself a Linux distributor and can endorse any
number of volunteer-supported Sugar distributions.
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it
clearer/easier to open a new activity without reopening the last
document.
A duplicate document function in the journal would be very useful, I
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You could also use one of Sascha's buildslaves, of course.
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admins to it.
Do you need a virtual host for this service?
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mergeable patches :-)
I certainly have a bunch :-)
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on entirely fs
* expose sync ds method to make sync directly e.g. on Reboot button click
To implement the dirty flag, we could recycle the index_updated flag
file: we could remove it before performing any change and restore it
when we're done updating the journal.
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---
src/sugar/activity/widgets.py |2 ++
1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py
index 83b689c..f89ac1f 100644
--- a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py
+++ b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py
@@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ class
The set_toolbox() method is obsolete, so let's not advertise it.
Signed-off-by: Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
---
src/sugar/activity/widgets.py |2 +-
1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
diff --git a/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py b/src/sugar/activity/widgets.py
index
like to manage this new
integration tree to aggregate experimental work. Any volunteers?
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in which important patches remain relatively inside custom distro
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);
update_font();
+update_font_dpi();
}
int main(int argc, char **argv)
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structure to minimize this tension. Ensuring that the proper
design will eventually be implemented is as important as delivering a
sufficiently polished product to our current user base. It seems that
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in the activities-devel sandbox on
sunjammer?
[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy
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the same
functionality?
Carlos created a new bundle with an updated libssl.
It should already be available from ASLO. Carlos?
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waste of
bandwidth.
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interested in joining efforts.
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, but please don't send it to me the very last day.
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El Wed, 16-06-2010 a las 13:34 -0400, Carlos Daniel Garay Ayala
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Is available on ASLO as activity VNCLauncher.
I can't find it in the public list nor in the review queue. Can you try
again?
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as they are released by the owners.
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and /proc/loadavg, like free(1) and uptime(1) do.
Any further refinement could come later, if someone finds the time and
motivation. If we come up with extravagant solutions now, chances are
good that nobody will do it and we won't have anything in time for the
next release.
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days to give
them some exposure, even though we're still there are several
opportunities for enhancement.
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