Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-06-08 Thread Dave Crossland
Do you have any more specific objections? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-06-07 Thread Adam Holt
Progress. Further progress will come after I speak with Bradley Kuhn in coming weeks, to understand has real-world recommendations on pacing/publishing financials, based on his extensive experiences with the ~40 NGO's he (as SFConservancy's de facto bookkeeper) supervises/supports. I hope he has

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-06-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I went over Caryl's google doc again after re-reading the below, and I must say that I am no longer surprised by Adam's comments at the SLOB meeting on Friday; it seems that these clearly expressed points were not addressed in the text that Caryl submitted. Adam, please review the Google Doc

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl! On 12 May 2016 at 11:08, Dave Crossland wrote: > Hi > > On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > >> Dues are a bad idea! >> Sorry folks >> > > Please could you explain why you think this? > I'm keen to understand your concern :) --

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Chris Leonard
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 11:41 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: >> >> Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > > > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager Yes there is and I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 May 2016 at 11:09, Sean DALY wrote: > Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". > Well, there's now a paid Translatoins Manager ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 4:28 AM, Sam Parkinson wrote: > Us volunteers write code, make releases, do user testing, etc. Sam - I'm not aware that anyone here is other than "us volunteers". Dues are how many if not most normally functioning nonprofits operate. I am

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 12 May 2016 at 10:51, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Dues are a bad idea! > Sorry folks > Please could you explain why you think this? -- Cheers Dave ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Dues are a bad idea! Sorry folks Caryl Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > >> On 11 May 2016 at 22:28, Sam Parkinson wrote: >> Is a membership fee for volunteers even something that any other Free >> Software

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-12 Thread Sam Parkinson
I'm not a big fan of this idea. The SLOBs already seem to have some capital. But they seem to be scared to spend it. How much arguing have we done over the translation co-ordinator position? Something like a translation position would be great, but nobody has seemed to actually do anything

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Basically a "Member" is a "significant and sustained" contributor to Sugar Labs; Members can run for election to the Oversight Board, vote in the elections for the Oversight Board, and suggest referenda. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members Adam, I think the list is at

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Justin Overton
I'm new around here, and it's been interested to passively follow the discussion. Just to clarify... what is a member? I really want to contribute to this project, but I don't want to have to pay to work for free. :) On Wed, 11 May 2016 18:21:01 -0500 Dave Crossland d...@lab6.comwrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-05-12 2:08 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > On 11 May 2016 at 14:05, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> there are ~US$65,000 available for planning/distributing among >> activities/teams/projects etc. > > > I think its essential that this be spent in ways that led

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 13:03, Laura Vargas wrote: > Sorry I missed to explain this. By the date of the agreement (2012), the > Project agreed that, on the Effective Date, $1,887.44 (10% of the existing > Project Fund on the Effective Date), will be donated to Conservancy’s >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Laura Vargas
2016-05-12 0:56 GMT+08:00 Dave Crossland : > > > On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > >> You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were >> cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: >> >> >> >> Total Income 10% of

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 May 2016 at 12:50, Laura Vargas wrote: > You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were > cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: > > > > Total Income 10% of Total Income > > > > 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 > 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-11 Thread Laura Vargas
You are totally right Adam, I'm sorry I did not notice these were cumulative values. Corrected table would look like this: Total Income 10% of Total Income 2015 $9.028,56 $902,86 2014 $49.622,18 $4.962,22 2013 $49.229,19 $4.922,92 2012 $208,26 $1.908,27 *Total* *$108.088,19* *$12.696,26*

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Do you think having the motion as it is with $Y = 0 is ok? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Adam Holt
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 8:47 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard > wrote: > > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> In other words that SL's effective

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 May 2016 at 11:47, Chris Leonard wrote: > > I'm looking for an executed copy of the current SugarLabs-SFC FSA to > > confirm, unfortunately the wiki version looks at variance with the > > template, but as a wiki page, it has no "official" status. > > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Leonard wrote: > On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: > > ... > >> In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservancy (for >> legal/financial/administrative service) is equal to 10% of all

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-07 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Adam Holt wrote: ... > In other words that SL's effective payment to SFConservancy (for > legal/financial/administrative service) is equal to 10% of all expenditures > (outlays) each fiscal year, i.e. March 1st to end of February. > > (But

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam Thanks for the thoughtful comments, I've added them as comments in the doc to help close them out On 6 May 2016 at 12:06, Adam Holt wrote: > The financial spring cleaning CarylB, DaveC and others have worked hard on > within >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-05 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Caryl! Sorry to hear about that - best wishes for you and Ed that it all goes smoothly! :) On 5 May 2016 at 12:14, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > Hi all... > I finally had a chance to check out the discussions about the motions I > have proposed. Unfortunately I don't really

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] [SLOB] meeting reminder and some open issues to discuss

2016-05-05 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi all... I finally had a chance to check out the discussions about the motions I have proposed. Unfortunately I don't really have the chance to do much commenting as I am restricted to communicating with my I phone for a while. After a great 10 days in WA and going to LinuxFestNW (on our own