Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Walter Bender
The other possibility is to multiply by 100, dropping the decimal point, .e.g., we just released Sugar 100 and are working on Sugar 102. -walter On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > What about calling it 1.102 (tech version). That shouldn't come with any > message attached...

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > The other possibility is to multiply by 100, dropping the decimal > point, .e.g., we just released Sugar 100 and are working on Sugar 102. > > -walter I did this a couple of times on Twitter, but I like it! I had a chat with my wife this mo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Sameer Verma
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: > I prefer marketing guys talk about marketing, > but _IMHO_, the numbers what have sense for us internally are not > the same number what have sense to all other the world. > For us have sense numbers like 102 or 1.102, but probably not for o

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
As said before, a name only, is not good to indicate progression (at least the name is "The Third" and so :) Gonzalo On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > I agree marketing version should be an integer or a name. Actually I like > the idea of a name, it would make the separat

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Sean DALY
Walter - my issue with a formal system is, it boxes us into numbers on a timeframe - what we need from a marketing standpoint is to choose a number that explains the story we will build. Both v2 and v3 are candidates to be worked on for that story, where we can refer to v1 as Sugar in production on

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0

2013-11-07 Thread Sean DALY
Apple went numbers+names for OS X, but chose numbers only for iOS - likely because the look and feel changes so little across versions. Sean On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Do we need to indicate progression? It doesn't seem to be an issue for OS > X for example (thoug

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-07 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Sean, Usually, we are not doing big changes, but incremental changes. We are closer to the reality of the linux kernel, where the change to 3.0 was not related to changes itself, but to the numbers where not comfortable, and they are planning release version 4.0 by the same reason in one year. Wha

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-07 Thread Sean DALY
thanks for that Gonzalo the key version number criteria for marketing is not that it's a formal system, it's to simplify a story for people who have little or more likely no idea what Sugar is. The story we are developing is: we are meeting the challenge of handheld devices while supporting our 3

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-07 Thread David Farning
In hind sight... The gtk2 -> gtk3 would have benefited from a major version change. At the time, I didn't realized it. From a deployment perspective the shift represented a major change. In addition to the base software, all of the necessary activities needed to be migrated, QAed, and verified if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-08 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
I also think w should change the major number when we have something different to show (when we achieved the goal) Gonzalo On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Daniel Narvaez wrote: > Thanks, I now see where I was confused... Normally in developer versioning > you bump the major number when you ach

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-08 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hi, I think it's wrong to bump "marketing" version numbers on acount of technology shifts. I don't see how i'ts relevant for users that we switched to GTK3, or even that it is now possible to build "native" web activities (it was always possible with a wrapper). I see as a much more interesti

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] RFC: Make Sugar 0.102 = Sugar 1.0[ Sugar-devel Digest, Vol 61, Issue 43]

2013-11-08 Thread Sean DALY
thanks for that Sebastian We haven't had a marketing version number until now (excepting SoaS v1 in 2009 which we implied in our communications was "v1"), so from a marketing perspective the only question is whether to go v2 or v3. I don't have a strong opinion, but the key is that a marketing ver