Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-08 Thread samson goddy
om Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities)) Interesting thread and timely. I'm headed to SF (from DC) to attend the Facebook Developer's Conference. There is a pre-conference workshop on Monday for NGOs. I'll keep an eye out

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-08 Thread Mike Lee
Interesting thread and timely. I'm headed to SF (from DC) to attend the Facebook Developer's Conference. There is a pre-conference workshop on Monday for NGOs. I'll keep an eye out for any relevant bits of info. I will be going to the the OLPC SF meeting tomorrow. Mike Sent from my iPhone > O

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-08 Thread Sean DALY
On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Lionel Laské wrote: > In my point of view Facebook is not a platform. But it's probably possible > to run Sugarizer (or a part of it) into the Facebook context. > > BTW I'm agree with Sean, it has sense only if we've got a marketing plan > to be there. > > The fir

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-08 Thread Lionel Laské
In my point of view Facebook is not a platform. But it's probably possible to run Sugarizer (or a part of it) into the Facebook context. BTW I'm agree with Sean, it has sense only if we've got a marketing plan to be there. The first part of the job was to share a vision. I think that recent mails

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 12:54, Sean DALY wrote: > As strange as it may sound, effective marketing comes from a rigorous > approach. > Right - one of the top Google marketing partners is http://www.conversion-rate-experts.com - one of the 2 co-foundners was previously a rocket science physicist :) ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 10:33, Sean DALY wrote: > Smart marketing involves identifying a target with an objective, then > choosing a media channel to touch that target. It's tempting to go the > other way around and say "facebook is a heavyweight channel, so let's > concentrate there, and everybody li

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Sean DALY
:D yes Ignacio I know you are I did a press release about you haha :D my point is, not everybody wants the same thing out of facebook. Personally, I like figurative art and I "like" fb pages on that topic. But it doesn't matter what I like, what matters is what our target audience likes. My point

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:10 PM, samson goddy wrote: > I think that doing ads on facebook or twitter will be great. Samson... at the risk of repeating myself... who are the ads geared to? What do the ads say? Is the objective to boost random traffic on facebook, or traffic more likely to adopt

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
are you ...? * a donor interested in supporting a project to support financially? * a developer interested in a project to volunteer with? * a teacher interested in a classroom computer-based learning tool? * a parent interested in a home setting computer-based learning tool? * a cool guy interest

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
...@gmail.com; d...@lab6.com; sanchit.bansal_u...@ashoka.edu.in; vishalvenka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities)) On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy wrote: a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
...@ashoka.edu.in; vishalvenka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities)) On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy wrote: a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and twitter). And i will submit it this week

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 5:13 PM, samson goddy wrote: > a proposal of targeting more users via the social media (Facebook and > twitter). And i will submit it this week or next so we will know that to do. Great! So... what is our target or targets? What is our objective or objectives? What is ou

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Sean DALY
Hi Ignacio are you ...? * a donor interested in supporting a project to support financially? * a developer interested in a project to volunteer with? * a teacher interested in a classroom computer-based learning tool? * a parent interested in a home setting computer-based learning tool? * a cool

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
Like i said Facebook has a lot of users compared to other social networking site. I and Walter had discussion yesterday where i was telling him that the best way to get more users is to do things perfectly via the social media. Our Facebook page is not really doing well with over 600

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
Like i said Facebook has a lot of users compared to other social networking site. I and Walter had discussion yesterday where i was telling him that the best way to get more users is to do things perfectly via the social media. Our Facebook page is not really doing well with over 600

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
not really the whole sugarizer, probably its activities. because i was checking up Facebook education category it seems like not much education app present. So this is the perfect time to strike in the category. About the gaming we should upload it differently. Sugarizer is a education software

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Ignacio Rodríguez
As Facebook user, I think that Sugarizer wouldn't have success. What I mean, when I look through Facebook "market", I try to find games that my friends play, so it can be more ¿cool?. Probably if we publish Sugarizer it would have 50-200 monthly users. I prefer to use sugarizer in it official webs

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread samson goddy
...@ashoka.edu.in; vishalvenka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities)) On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: One of the ideas of Sugar is to raise awareness about the software freedom movement, and as such, providing the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Sean DALY
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:38 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > One of the ideas of Sugar is to raise awareness about the software freedom > movement, and as such, providing the full experience within the facebook > police-state playpark is an own-goal. We should reach people where they are > in the play

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Vishal Batchu
Oh, yes I agree with you totally, can't believe how I didn't think of it from that perspective. Internet.org once, Free Basics again, we never know what it will come up with next to disrupt the entire state of the internet. Also, it's great to hear that Sugar is trying to raise awareness about the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi You are probably more familiar than I am with the facebook free basics fiasco. Facebook seeks to establish itself as a grand gateway to what the internet can do, and the software freedom movement yearns to make Facebook obsolete. (eg, see https://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2010/feb/10/highlig

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Vishal Batchu
Hi Dave, I can see why you want to limit the app on facebook, but don't you think that it would be better if everyone could have the full sugar/sugarizer experience independent of where they are using it currently (facebook in this case)? If it is technically not possible to run the entire sugarize

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing, but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level. _