Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 13.03.2010, at 11:56, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I've spent three days in Caacupè, observing how the new F11-XO1 build is doing among our young user base. It's a great success, but for the wrong reason:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:35 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: So +1 to look customization. E.g., why not allow to change the gray frame color? In Etoys you can at least change the toolbar color (not permanently though, I should fix that). Even if it enrages our latte-drinking black-wearing

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Gerald Ardito
Bernie. Thanks so much for this. With the 5th grade US students I work with, this customization is really important to their sense of ownership. By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. Thanks. Gerald On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Bernie

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 08:33 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: By the way, how do you upgrade the XOs (we have XO-1s) to .84? This is a very big deal for us. We use a local variant of the F11-XO1 images by Stephen Parrish, signed with the deployment keys. The procedure for each laptop is: (1)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Frederick Grose
See http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/535#comment:5, Expose Journal, Home, Group, Neighborhood, Frame Sources, where it's suggested that we extend the 'Show Source' facility to more of Sugar. Learners like to exercise and demonstrate their knowledge by customizing or changing their environments.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 13:26 -0500, Gerald Ardito wrote: Where can I download this image? I've uploaded one of our builds here: http://people.sugarlabs.org/bernie/olpc/py-xo1/ It's slightly newer than the version we've been installing on children's laptops, and has been lightly tested. If