On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
Ok, did not think about yum update.
Did not know GNOME was a requirement, wonder if this is a benefit to have
though. I mean it is Sugar on a stick in the end. If it helps to make mac
users get to know gnome or sugar
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
Ok, did not think about yum update.
Did not know GNOME was a requirement, wonder if this is a benefit to have
though. I mean it is Sugar on a stick in the end. If it helps to make mac
You can easily make gdm the session manager from which to choose sugar
or gnome, and thereby give them access to gimp, inkscape and whatever
other apps...
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:40 PM,
David Van Assche wrote:
You can easily make gdm the session manager from which to choose sugar
or gnome, and thereby give them access to gimp, inkscape and whatever
other apps...
Sure - I understnad the technical part. I wondered more about what
people expect when thy download the Sugar
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:53 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
You can easily make gdm the session manager from which to choose sugar
or gnome, and thereby give them access to gimp, inkscape and whatever
other apps...
gdm was eating quite a bit of memory last time I tried. Also
David Van Assche wrote:
What's wrong with offering kde, sugar, or gnome from the login manager
(whatever that might be... that could be made as simple or complicated
as one wanted.) Kde has an amazingly powerful group of edu apps, as
does gnome, as does Sugar... all for different age groups...
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes yum install would work
So Simon, if you want to get rid of GNOME and add the yum bits to the
instructions about switching to GNOME on the Soas page, please go
ahead :)
Marco
Yeah we are doing the same with edubuntu... which should include sugar
in Jaunty+1, when it is a little more mature (activity wise.) Kde-edu
has made massive advances in their edu tools and the kde team seems
very committed to getting the whole distro known as the 'edu' distro.
Part of the reason
David Van Assche wrote:
Yeah we are doing the same with edubuntu... which should include sugar
in Jaunty+1, when it is a little more mature (activity wise.) Kde-edu
has made massive advances in their edu tools and the kde team seems
very committed to getting the whole distro known as the 'edu'
Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
David Van Assche wrote:
Yeah we are doing the same with edubuntu... which should include sugar
in Jaunty+1, when it is a little more mature (activity wise.) Kde-edu
has made massive advances in their edu tools and the kde team seems
very committed to getting the
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
To the contrary, the words Sugar on a Stick actually mean something.
Actually they mean two things: Sugar environment on a USB stick in the
context of software, and a kind of candy in the context of food.
+1
I've
Yes yum install would work
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On Jan 31, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org
wrote:
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Simon Schampijer
si...@schampijer.de wrote:
Ok, did not think about yum update.
Did not know
Low floor no ceiling
A 4 year old should not face a dialog box asking gnome or sugar. A 12
year old with experience should be able to break out of sugar to the
full power of Linux. It's ok with me if the 12 year old has to toto a
page in a wiki to do it. Doesn't have to be super easy
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg g...@redhat.com wrote:
So. If someone can point me to the *authoritative iso image* that we want
to use for SoaS, I will make sure that we have install stations at the
Fedora booth at FOSDEM.
The latest known to work is:
2009/1/27 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com:
Any tips as to what to do with these 2 on an XO? The only thing I've
done with .img and .crc before is copy-nand from firmware – is it
possible to run them from a usb stick without wiping nand or effecting
the existing nand install (so we can
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
You can download the iso here:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso
I have an issue to boot the stick on my desktop machine (ASUS A7V8X-X).
It works fine on my T61 though.
SYSLINUX 3.51 2007-06-10 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2007 H.
Or rock candy :)
-lf
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote:
The name Soas lacks pizazz. How about lollipop? After all, a
lollipop is just ..
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Agree with Mitch about Soas, but I like more Luke's suggestion.
Regards,
Tomeu
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 18:38, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
Or rock candy :)
-lf
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote:
The name Soas lacks pizazz. How about
To the contrary, the words Sugar on a Stick actually mean something.
Actually they mean two things: Sugar environment on a USB stick in the
context of software, and a kind of candy in the context of food.
Lollipop or Rock Candy means nothing in the context of software unless you
*know* you are
To state my position more generally, I believe we cannot use metaphorical
references to associate our brands with each other. It defeats the whole
purpose of a unified brand.
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote:
To the contrary, the words Sugar on a Stick
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote:
Rock candy is sugar on a string.
O RLY? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Rock_Candy.jpg
:)
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So is cotton candy:)
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote:
Rock candy is sugar on a string.
Lollipops are sugar on a stick.
Clearly you guys didn't spend enough of your youth trying to rot your
teeth away.
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote:
Rock candy is sugar on a string.
Hm... maybe we'll call our LTSP setup that? :P
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Well, if you mainly want to appeal to / capture memeshare from people
with a serious academic/linguistic/coding bent, you can be as obscure
as you want. Make each name an anagram of a metaphor of something
sugary, followed by the one's digit of the year in which the project
was founded.
Or what
You can download the iso here:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso
Instructions on how to install it are here:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
I also made an experimental image for the XO. It's not signed, so you
will need security disabled, if you
Hi Marco,
On 27 Jan 2009, at 23:00, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
You can download the iso here:
http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200901271941.iso
Instructions on how to install it are here:
http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
I also made an experimental image for
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it
sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it
sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it
sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 04:51:04AM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
2 X fades a couple of times and then hangs the system.
Describe this further?
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On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 18:01 -0500, Chris Ball wrote:
Hi Marco,
Some extra steps:
* Clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/spin-kickstarts
* If you want F10 apply spin.patch
* Apply live.patch in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate
* sudo yum -y install livecd-tools
Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
FWIW, I have noticed mmap errors while trying to deal with large files
(~70MB) on the standard OLPC builds. localedef does not work in the XO
for this (strace shows that it chokes when trying to mmap
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive)
I don't think it's related to the
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
It's probably worth reading through the pilgrim
'streams.d/olpc-development.stream' file to see if there are other
fixes you are missing.
Indeed.
Starting with a white-room F10 build is going to cause many such
regressions, and re-discovering all the associated
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
I'm still not able to get the images I create to boot on the XO -- could
you confirm that you're using the Fedora kernel and initrd?
Yup, sure. The only difference is that the initrd contains more
modules, because of the
Yay, stock F10 is now running GNOME fine. Some more things I found:
* I was not using -a when copying the files, so owners and all kind of
other stuff was not preserved. That's the cause of the hal failure,
new script attached.
* With selinux enabled you cannot login from the console. Perhaps
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
Yay, stock F10 is now running GNOME fine. Some more things I found:
* I was not using -a when copying the files, so owners and all kind of
other stuff was not preserved. That's the cause of the hal failure,
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
* rpm does not work. It complains about mmap failure when reading the
db, jffs2 related?
As far as I know, jffs2 doesn't support writable mmaps. In the debian
ports, we add some special magic to tell apt not to
Hi Marco,
Got it working now. livecd-creator should be run on x86_64 as:
sudo setarch i386 livecd-creator ...
* X doesn't actually crash the system, it's just very broken :) If
you switch to vt and back you can also see some parts of the gdm
screen. It looks definitely like a
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
* rpm does not work. It complains about mmap failure when reading the
db, jffs2 related?
As far as I know, jffs2 doesn't support
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
D'oh, I think OLPC asked Warren to push that X driver update, and it
sounds like we didn't test it properly. Is there a good way to select
which version of an RPM to use in kickstart, maybe?
Which package are you referring to
Hi Marco,
Some extra steps:
* Clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/spin-kickstarts
* If you want F10 apply spin.patch
* Apply live.patch in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate
* sudo yum -y install livecd-tools mtd-utils crcimg
* If you're building on F10, s/ext4/ext3/ in
Hi Marco,
Hello, I spent some time trying to get Sugar on a stick images
(which are basically livecd-tools based Fedora spins) running on
the XO from nand. Converting the image to jffs2 and adding
cafe_nand and jffs2 to the initrd was enough to make it boot.
You're awesome!
1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.
Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
problem?
When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting
without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it.
It looks like you're
Hi Marco,
Same results as yesterday with F10 while F11 fails to /init (both
images built from an F10).
I gave this a try, and I get a hang after Loading ramdisk image.. in
OFW when booting a Rawhide image built on a Rawhide/x86-64 host. Will
try with a serial port connected tomorrow.
Hello,
I spent some time trying to get Sugar on a stick images (which are
basically livecd-tools based Fedora spins) running on the XO from
nand. Converting the image to jffs2 and adding cafe_nand and jffs2 to
the initrd was enough to make it boot.
I have two weird problems:
1 haldaemon fails
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