On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:
> Hello amigos,
>
> Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide
> notification-messages system is required as a basis for many bug fixes or
> enhancements.
[...]
> Currently, Sugar does not have a mechanism to communicat
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Martin Dengler wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:
> > Hello amigos,
> >
> > Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide
> > notification-messages system is required as a basis for many bug fixes or
> > enhancements
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:07:29AM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Martin Dengler
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 06:02:28PM -0300, Martin Abente wrote:
> > > Hello amigos,
> > >
> > > Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide
> > > notificati
Hi Martin,
On 5 Nov 2010, at 21:02, Martin Abente wrote:
> Hello amigos,
>
> Recently I encountered many situations where a system-wide
> notification-messages system is required as a basis for many bug fixes or
> enhancements. I am not talking about the messages that are related to an
> spec
Hello again,
(At this point I guess I have like 3 threads about this topic, so I better
stick to one, Sorry if there was any confusion)
Any ways, last night Gary and I had a very productive chat about the Look
and Feel of this feature.
In my first proposal [1], the notification icons (w/ message
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Martin Abente
wrote:
> Hello again,
[snip]
> So far, I think this is the best idea we got :), but I guess it is important
> to have the approval of other members, So please everyone take a look at [3]
> and give us some feedback before my implementation gets to t
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Martin Abente
> wrote:
> > Hello again,
>
> [snip]
>
> > So far, I think this is the best idea we got :), but I guess it is
> important
> > to have the approval of other members, So please everyone take a lo
* On top of ui changes, would it also make sense to play some
'notification' sounds as well? The HIG doesn't say anything about
sounds AFAIK
* Or flashing an icon or doing 'something' with the UI exactly when
the notification occurs.
* Also, what about conditionally (based on importance, urgency)
Maybe we could group all the notifications that are repeated.
Journal is Full... (X 3)
Other Warning..
Other Warning (X2).
Could be useful show the date of the problem in the case of historical
warnings.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Anish Mangal wrote:
> * On top of ui changes, would it a
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente
wrote:
> * Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening?
Why/when does the user want to know "what's happening"? Users are busy
doing something interesting...
We should interrupt/hassle the user never. Or extremely seldom.
m
--
Just to clarify, this feature is not intended to replace the log.
(apparently some people got the wrong idea)
It is needed in many scenarios, as a general mechanism to communicate
important events to the user, that until now (and already) we have been
re-inventing the wheel every time we wanted to
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Martin Langhoff
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente
> wrote:
>> * Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening?
>
> Why/when does the user want to know "what's happening"? Users are busy
> doing something interesting...
>
> W
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:10 PM, David Farning wrote:
> This patch has a place in Dextrose. Dextrose is looking at the
> question, "How can we provide support staff the necessary information
> to effectively fix and/or report problems to a higher level of service
> and support?"
Let's not jump t
Change the "want" for "need" and we have:
"When there is something they _need_ to know"
And that is exactly the same reason why we are already using the Icon
notifications and the same reason why we are already using Alert widgets all
over sugar (outside activities), and there are still more case
Hi Martin,
On 17 Nov 2010, at 19:17, Martin Abente wrote:
> Change the "want" for "need" and we have:
>
> "When there is something they _need_ to know"
>
> And that is exactly the same reason why we are already using the Icon
> notifications and the same reason why we are already using Alert
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:10:23PM -0600, David Farning wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Martin Langhoff
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Martin Abente
> > wrote:
> >> * Why the user should start an activity to know what is happening?
> >
> > Why/when does the user want to k
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 02:44:16PM -0200, Daniel Castelo wrote:
> Maybe we could group all the notifications that are repeated.
> Journal is Full... (X 3)
> Other Warning..
> Other Warning (X2).
Definitely.
> Could be useful show the date of the problem in the case of historical
> warnings.
sort
Hi Martin,
Just wanted to give you a heads up that I have a slightly different design
coming together for notifications.
After further, more detailed, work the frame corner notification history
palette idea is not coming together so well. I've switched to mockups that
actually badge the existi
Awesome, let me know whenever you got something to share :)
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Gary C Martin
wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Just wanted to give you a heads up that I have a slightly different design
> coming together for notifications.
>
> After further, more detailed, work the frame corne
Hi Martin,
On 23 Nov 2010, at 17:23, Martin Abente wrote:
> Awesome, let me know whenever you got something to share :)
Just wanted to pass on the wiki page I've been working on. I'd like to generate
more example mockups covering the devices frame edge (easy), and the buddy
frame edge (more co
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On 23 Nov 2010, at 17:23, Martin Abente wrote:
>
>> Awesome, let me know whenever you got something to share :)
>
> Just wanted to pass on the wiki page I've been working on. I'd like to
> generate more example mockups covering
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Gary Martin
> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2010, at 17:23, Martin Abente wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, let me know whenever you got something to share :)
>>
>> Just wanted to pass on the wiki page I've been
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:40 AM, Walter Bender wrote:
> I like both approaches, actually. The first, with the badges, closely
> associates the notification with its context and the corner history
> let's you get an overview.
I like the first approach, for the same reasons as Walter. Much more
than
The design looks great, and I like the fact that it attaches each
notification to its real context when there is a visible one (i,e an
activity, journal, battery device icon, etc).
How would it work with notifications that are not related to an activity or
with a visible context?
Possible use cas
Hi Martin,
On 8 Dec 2010, at 05:11, Martin Abente wrote:
> The design looks great, and I like the fact that it attaches each
> notification to its real context when there is a visible one (i,e an
> activity, journal, battery device icon, etc).
>
> How would it work with notifications that are
Hi Walter,
On 7 Dec 2010, at 10:40, Walter Bender wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Gary Martin
> wrote:
>> Hi Martin,
>>
>> On 23 Nov 2010, at 17:23, Martin Abente wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome, let me know whenever you got something to share :)
>>
>> Just wanted to pass on the wiki page I'
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On 8 Dec 2010, at 05:11, Martin Abente wrote:
>
> > The design looks great, and I like the fact that it attaches each
> notification to its real context when there is a visible one (i,e an
> activity, journal, battery device icon
Hi Frederick,
On 11 Dec 2010, at 04:24, Frederick Grose wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Gary Martin
> wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> On 8 Dec 2010, at 05:11, Martin Abente wrote:
>
> > The design looks great, and I like the fact that it attaches each
> > notification to its real context
Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Sat Dec 11 05:05:07 +0100 2010:
> > (and perhaps we could add a 'send
> > a notification' submenu to the friends icons on the Frame as well).
>
> I'm still thinking on that one... Chat type notifications from friends would
> seem like the ideal case for a c
Excerpts from Anish Mangal's message of Wed Nov 17 15:02:56 +0100 2010:
> * On top of ui changes, would it also make sense to play some
> 'notification' sounds as well? The HIG doesn't say anything about
> sounds AFAIK
That would be useful in some cases, but we need to be careful. We don't
want
a
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Sascha Silbe
wrote:
> Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Sat Dec 11 05:05:07 +0100 2010:
>
>> > (and perhaps we could add a 'send
>> > a notification' submenu to the friends icons on the Frame as well).
>>
>> I'm still thinking on that one... Chat type notifica
Hi Sascha,
On 11 Dec 2010, at 09:40, Sascha Silbe
wrote:
> Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Sat Dec 11 05:05:07 +0100 2010:
>
>>> (and perhaps we could add a 'send
>>> a notification' submenu to the friends icons on the Frame as well).
>>
>> I'm still thinking on that one... Chat type n
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Gary Martin wrote:
> Hi Sascha,
>
> On 11 Dec 2010, at 09:40, Sascha Silbe
> wrote:
>
>> Excerpts from Gary Martin's message of Sat Dec 11 05:05:07 +0100 2010:
>>
(and perhaps we could add a 'send
a notification' submenu to the friends icons on the Fram
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