Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Frans W. Maes
Dear John, Thank you for bringing this to our attention! The Wilanow Palace sundial photo and its description can also be found at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Warsaw_Wilanow_Palace_sundial.jpg This is indeed an interesting sundial, but also an interesting photo. Karl Schwarzingers photo

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread dbell
Also curious, I don't recall any mention of the two auxiliary dials, with the cherubim holding their own styles, one 4 hours fast, the other 4 hours slow relative to the main dial. And what about the apparent four additional styles, one at each lower corner of the window frames? Dave Dear John,

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Hannes K
Dave, as far as I can see the smaller dials show italic and babylonian hours, the latter at the right with the too short gnomon. The things sticking out from the windowsills seem to be pipes to channel rainwater out and away from the sundial. Hannes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Also curious,

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Jan Bielawski
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Hannes K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, as far as I can see the smaller dials show italic and babylonian hours, That's what the description (in Polish) says, yes. -- Jan ---

RE: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread John Carmichael
Hi Frans, Dave Others: Can anybody tell us what time notation are shown on the two auxiliary dials (on either side of the main dial)? I am not an expert on the many different types of time that can be shown on a sundial. Roger, you seem to know about these odd types of dials. Do you know? I

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Jan Bielawski
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:16 PM, John Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been unable to translate the Czech website description of the dial, so the only info I have is from Karl's website. (translation anyone?) I'll post the translation of the Polish text later tonight (PDT). Have

Re: Fabric sundial

2008-04-21 Thread Edley McKnight
Dear Fer, Despina, Peter, dialists, Yes, an array of dials for different Latitudes, perhaps for different dates as well, would be a great idea! Perhaps your own Shadow Plane dials from the article in December, 1999 of the NASS Compendium: Shadow Plane Sundials - II Maddux, Oglesby deVries

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
Hi All, As Jan says, the auxilliary dials appear to be Italian (or Italic if you prefer) and Babylonian hours. But I think they are numbered and/or delineated totally incorrectly. Let me explain. At the equinoxes you get exactly 12 hours of day, 12 of night, so noon is 6 o'clock Babylonian (since

Re: A Most Beautiful Dial!

2008-04-21 Thread Roger Bailey
Hi Chris, John and all, I believe you are right. The lines are correct. The numbers are wrong. I used the essential tool, Fer de Vries program to calculate a south facing vertical dial with Italian and Babylonian hours. The tiny pdf version is attached. I did not add the numbers as I did not