Re: how italian hours

2010-03-31 Thread Gianni Ferrari
*Some other curious properties of the Italic and Babylonian hours.* I will adopt here the Frank’s notation : F=French or modern hours; I=Italic; B=Babylonian. Moreover T=Temporary and D = duration of the clear day (from dawn to sunset). The simple following formulae are valid: I=F+(24-D)

Re: re how italian dials

2010-03-31 Thread Fabio Savian
Chris you are right. Moving a sundial in another place, you can redirect it so that the style becomes polar. Then you can revolve it around its style to get the hour lines in the correct position. To make this immaginary moving there are different theories, for example you can calculate the new

Re: re how italian dials

2010-03-31 Thread Frank King
Dear Frank, This is an interesting thought... > I'm starting to think that for a vertical > dial in Italian hours it would be simplest > to use the old dialist's trick of laying it > out as a horizontal dial at ninety degrees > away. I think you will find a tiny snag or two in this approach! Yo

Re: re how italian dials

2010-03-31 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
Dear Frank Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you can't use that trick because Italian and Babylonian time are "local" in a way that modern hours are not. The modern time at a location ninety degrees away is always a fixed amount before or after the time you're interested in. For instance, for a wall in En

re how italian dials

2010-03-31 Thread Frank Evans
Greetings, fellow dialists, I'm starting to think that for a vertical dial in Italian hours it would be simplest to use the old dialist's trick of laying it out as a horizontal dial at ninety degrees away. Frank --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailm

Re:Madame Andrée GOTTELAND

2010-03-31 Thread nicolasever...@libero.it
It 'a great loss. I am saddened and I feel near to the family of Andre. I had numerous contacts with her, especially for the preparation of the book on the meridian lines of the world. I express my condolences to his family. Nicola -- Initial Header --- >From : sundial-bou

Re: how italian hours

2010-03-31 Thread Frank King
Dear Gianni, I enjoyed your explanation and (I liked the deliberate mistake which you included to make sure we were paying attention)... > If we have a horizontal sundial we > cannot use the method that I have > described yesterday. Of course, we CAN use your yesterday's method provided we accep