Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread Fred Sawyer
Frank, > > The key paragraph in your note is: > > > "I use this order because both rotations are > about axes IN THE PLANE being used. This > keeps rotation matrices simple and so on." > > There is no real need to do one before the other - unless you are concerned > about making the matrix manipu

Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
I am at a quick stop while on itinerary. Somewhere you have to address N and S as a basis for declination, ad then E or W. And somewhere you have the inclination. Thus there should be no confusion. "S 45°W inclined 20°" for example. Chapter 18, pages 171 to 202 of Illustrating More Shadows dis

Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread Simon [illustratingshadows
I am at a quick stop while on itinerary. Somewhere you have to address N and S as a basis for declination, ad then E or W. And somewhere you have the inclination. Thus there should be no confusion. "S 45°W inclined 20°" for example. Chapter 18, pages 171 to 202 of Illustrating More Shadows dis

Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread Frank King
Dear Fer, Thank you for your message. Your procedure is almost exactly like mine. I also start with the equatorial plane (I missed that step out in my message). I then: 1. Rotate by phi (to make the plane vertical) 2. Rotate by Azimuth (to face the plane in the

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2010-08-31 Thread Schechner, Sara
I would like to contact Klaus Eichholz by email. If he is a reader of this list, or if anyone has his current email address, please contact me off-list. Thank you. Sara Sara J. Schechner, Ph.D. David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection of Historical Scientific Instruments Department of the H

Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread fer de vries
Frank, At our website http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl you may read the procedure I use in my program ZW2000 to calculate sundials. Follow: calculate and construct flat sundials - extensive version main procedure I start with the sun's position relative to the equatorial plane, given by decl an

Re: Declination and Inclination

2010-08-31 Thread patrick_powers
Well, it's "Dec then Inc" for me - though I only have limited experience with inclined dial design. Hmmm, I hadn't ever really rationalised it as you have. An excellent topic. Thanks Frank -Original Message- From: Frank King To: sundial Sent: Tue, Aug 31, 2010 3:37 am Subject: De

To be better understood - again!!!

2010-08-31 Thread Mario Arnaldi
Dear collegues, here I am again hoping not boring you. A friend noticed me that in my last e-mail still using the word "fund" I am not been clear again but maybe I have generated again confusion in the minds of English speaking people. I suppose that the majority of you has it clear what I was t