Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread Beverly Stimpson
Dear List Members (and experts!), I am a new member to this Mailing List - a school-teacher who can see the several curriculum benefits, of using sundials in (mainly Primary) schools. One of my pupils recently asked me a question, which seemed simple - but after thinking about it, now I am not s

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread Yan Seiner
On Wed, April 10, 2013 2:41 pm, Beverly Stimpson wrote: > > Dear List Members (and experts!), > > I am a new member to this Mailing List - a school-teacher who can see the > several curriculum benefits, of using sundials in (mainly Primary) > schools. > > One of my pupils recently asked me a quest

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread David Patte ₯
Yes, at the point of intersection they are, but don't forget though that lat and long are great circles, not straight lines. Of course, there is no east or west at the poles. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread Douglas Vogt
? From: Beverly Stimpson To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South? Dear List Members (and experts!), I am a new member to this Mailing List - a school-teacher who can see t

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread koolish
While longitude lines are great circles, latitude lines are small circles. > David Patte wrote: > Yes, at the point of intersection they are, but don't forget though that > lat and long are great circles, not straight lines. > > Of course, there is no east or west at the poles. > > -

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread David Patte ₯
True - correction accepted, except at the equator :) I wonder if the poles have infinitely small latitude 'circles' ;) On 2013-04-10 22:02, kool...@dickkoolish.com wrote: While longitude lines are great circles, latitude lines are small circles. David Patte wrote: Yes, at the point of inte

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread koolish
This would be the starting azimuth of the great circle route from your location to Mecca. Here's a web page that does this: http://www.qiblalocator.com/ > Douglas Vogt wrote: > Reminds me of someone  a year or so ago who developed a method of > determining the east of Mecca for prayer purposes

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread R Wall ml
water. Looks to me that the Latitude/Longitude circles are all warping and changing? Do I have this correct? Roderick Wall. -Original Message- From: David Patte ₯ Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:08 PM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Is East/West always at exact 'rig

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-10 Thread David Patte ₯
Yes the distance around the equator is larger than twice the distance from pole to pole. The flattening of the earth (oblateness) is minor though. I can find the exact number if you are interested. I write astronomy software that has to take this into effect. actually - latitude (contrary to p

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread koolish
rom: David Patte ₯ > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:08 PM > To: sundial@uni-koeln.de > Subject: Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South? > > True - correction accepted, except at the equator :) > > I wonder if the poles have infinitely sm

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Direction of Mecca – A simple method In any place in the northern hemisphere you can find the exact direction of Mecca (qibla) by observing the direction of the Sun at the moment when it is at zenith of Mecca itself. We must observe the Sun on the day when its declination is equal to the latitude o

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread Gianni Ferrari
Some years ago (1999) there was a short discussion, on Italian Mailing List, on the sundials at the Pole: I tried to translate in (very bad) English my considerations, that I sent also to the List sundial@uni-koeln.de I send again hoping not to bore those who have already read them and also

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread R Wall ml
, 2013 1:23 PM To: David Patte ₯ ; sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South? And at the Equator, would the Longitude circle be the biggest circle of them all, because there is a bulge at the Equator. A bulge because the mass is forced out due

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread Frank King
Dear Gianni, You give us a deligthful story. I have a problem... > ... the poles are singular points! Yes, but these singular points do not keep still! > ...to keep always vertical without > any movement... Unfortunately, "polar wandering" means that Mr Thin would have to keep moving to stay

Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South?

2013-04-11 Thread Frank Evans
East and west can sometimes be pretty flexible. As a ship's navigator long ago I was regularly asked by a delegate from our Muslim crew which side Mecca was, so that they could pray correctly. "Port" or "starboard" was sufficient answer. Frank 55N 1W

RE: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South? [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

2013-04-10 Thread Hank de Wit
:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Douglas Vogt Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013 10:57 To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Is East/West always at exact 'right-angles', to North/South? Reminds me of someone a year or so ago who developed a method of determining the east of Mecca for