RE: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-19 Thread Fritz Stumpges
Hello David and all of you east-west seekers, With Tony Moss's 24 Hr (EoT adjusted) equatorially positioned clock, the hour hand would be in the meridian of the sun only; but due to its declination, the sun would usually pass due east and west before or after the hour hand, depending on the

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-19 Thread rtbailey
Hi David, The equation you quoted is correct. Cos t = Tan Dec / tan Lat. It is easier to calculate than it looks with a simple scientific calculator. As simple program or spreadsheet could easily add the add the equation of time and longitude to provide a table of clock times for each day of

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-18 Thread Frans W. Maes
x-charset utf-8Hi Alexei, In addition to the common horizontal and vertical types, you may find pictures of equatorial, polar, spherical, polyhedral, nodal, meridian, bifilar, shadow plane, conical and digital dial in my sundial site: http://www.fransmaes.nl/sundials - Original Message

Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-18 Thread Josef Pastor
Hello all, I think important for islamic prayers is the Qibla. Under following URL you find the methods and formula and much background knowledge for calculating the prayer direction to Mecca, which is quite different due to the location you are staying.

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-18 Thread David Lawrence
First of all, my thanks to those people who took the time to reply to my cry for help on this - and my apologies for a slight delay in responding, but I had to 'clarify' a few things with the Muslim group. The following are (I think!) the criteria that they wish to fulfill: (1) They are not

RE: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-17 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello David, Welcome to the list. You have asked an interesting non-trivial question, deserving not just a note but a worthy of a dissertation. Let me add a few thoughts well short of the answer. Sundials have a prominent but generally ignored role in Muslim culture. Many of our mathematical

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-17 Thread Th. Taudin Chabot
David, If this group has religious duties to pray due East or due West then that religion must halso have the means to determine that direction, you see that in any culture in the world. So I wonder how they found those directions before. It is more or less the same question I had earlier (and

RE: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-17 Thread Alexei Pace
Nowadays they can find carpets on which to pray which include a small magnetic compass in them so they can orientate towards Mecca On another topic, does anyone have a photo gallery of any new sundials , preferably something ’Äúinnovative’Äù not just a gnomon in the wall type of

RE: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-17 Thread fer de vries
Friends, David Lawrence started with the thread about finding east or west for the Muslims. I should say: use a magnetic compass. I think this also was done in practice aswas done with portable sundials. But isn't the direction to Mecca of more importance? (Qibla) Then use e.g. a "Mecca

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-17 Thread fer de vries
Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West? I wanted to answer to this thread and I needed a figure.My e-mail to the sundial list didn't pass so I offer my answer for download at: http://www.de-zonnewijzerkring.nl/test/mekka.htm Together with a second figure the file is

Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-16 Thread David Lawrence
At first sight, this looked like a 'trivial' request - but it very quickly became apparent that I don't have enough knowledge, and so I have joined this mailing-list in the hope of getting help from people who may be more able to say whether it is even possible! I am located in Northern

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-16 Thread BillGottesman
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RE: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-16 Thread Carl Barbara Sabanski
Hello David, I believe that I can offer a method that might meet the requirements of this group. However, it will depend upon the clarification of a couple of points. What do the terms exact and precisely mean in this case? What deviation, if any, is allowed? And can modern technology be

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-16 Thread Mac Oglesby
Hello David, In no way am I belittling your problem, or the religious group involved, but I can't help wondering how they determined the exact times when the sun was due east and west at their previous location. Or, their locations before that. Best wishes, Mac At first sight, this

Re: Is it possible to determine when the sun is due East West?

2005-09-16 Thread John Hall