Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic

2005-04-08 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
This question takes me back to when David Brown was creating an analemmatic dial for my young children's school. I advised that I thought it was too big, as they were small children. In the event, the dial is usable except for a small time daily in summer. As you say, the worst case is noon at mi

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic

2005-04-08 Thread BillGottesman
-Bill In a message dated 4/8/2005 2:28:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you all know, for latitudes about 40 deg, the least longitude of the style equals more or less the major semiaxis of the ellipse so that the shadow can reach the ellipse on the worst case, this is,

RE: On the greatest size of an analemmatic

2005-04-08 Thread Roger Bailey
Hi Anselmo and All, When I needed an answer to this question, I developed a spreadsheet to calculate and chart the path of the gnomon's shadow through the day and the seasons. The input variables are location size, gnomon height and solar declination. I gave the results at a NASS conference with

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic

2005-04-09 Thread Frans W. Maes
Hi Anselmo & all, In my webpage www.fransmaes.nl/sundials/ - "Analemmatic" - "extra info" - "The human scale", I calculated the shadow paths for a 2 meter gnomon (human with hands above head) in dials of 6 and 10 meter major axis, for latitudes of 35, 45 and 55 deg. I find it no problem to exten

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic

2005-04-09 Thread BillGottesman
-Bill In a message dated 4/9/2005 11:58:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Anselmo &all, In my webpage www.fransmaes.nl/sundials/ - "Analemmatic" - "extra info" - "The human scale", I calculated the shadow paths for a 2 meter gnomon (human with hands above head) in dials

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-10 Thread tony moss
Anselmo requestd, > >Now my doubts lie in materials: I have been talking to people hwo knows about >road construction and things like these and every one of them tells me a >different >thing about laying the numbers and the decorations. Any suggestion from you? Ably assisted by Graham Aldred we

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-10 Thread John Carmichael
t initiated by the Lions Club. We are looking for better resolution photos and more information on this beautiful dial. - Original Message - From: "tony moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Sundial Mail List" Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 2:04 AM Subject: Re: On the gr

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-10 Thread Willy Leenders
I have two suggestions: 1. The direction of the numbers. For esthetical reasons I place the nummbers of an analemmatic sundial by preference perpendicular to the ellipse curve. An easy manner to do it: connect the hour points left and right of the number to be placed with a line and place the n

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-11 Thread Frank King
Dear All, I have been following this analemmatic thread with particular interest since I have recently been giving advice to a Swedish stone-cutter who wants to set a dial out in her garden. She lives on the cold side of 60 degrees north. I especially noted: > I have been talking to people who

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-11 Thread tony moss
Frank King Wrote, >Can some U.S. reader who knows all about cold >winters kindly let this temperate Brit know what is >likely to be found underneath this dial? Is there >really 1200mm of hard-core and elaborate drainage? The pedestal of the Longyearbyen dial at 87° north is supported what seems

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-11 Thread Richard Langley
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005, tony moss wrote: >Frank King Wrote, > >>Can some U.S. reader who knows all about cold >>winters kindly let this temperate Brit know what is >>likely to be found underneath this dial? Is there >>really 1200mm of hard-core and elaborate drainage? > >The pedestal of the Longyea

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-11 Thread Brian Albinson
I have tried two different mosaic methods (i) the standard "amateur" direct method given in textbooks of siliconing vitreous glass tiles onto an existing slab and then beating in mortar grout; and (ii) using the reverse method, beating in a thin grout layer and then casting a slab on top.

Re: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more

2005-04-11 Thread Frank King
Dear All, Many thanks to Tony Moss and Brian Albinson for the most erudite comments so far... Tony: I vaguely recall the constructions techniques used in Spitsbergen, namely very deep piles as you note. Here, of course, there is permafrost and one can rely on the ground being permanently frozen

RE: On the greatest size of an analemmatic and more modern innovations

2005-04-10 Thread Roger Bailey
Hi Anselmo, Have you considered a couple of modern innovations, seasonal markers and split analemmas? The seasonal markers show where and when the sun rises and sets through the year. These would work well at your latitude. The split analemmatic dial has separate ellipses for morning and afternoo