RE: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-09 Thread The Thurstons
Keith, The formula from Waugh should work fine but only for a dial with the gnomon aligned to the rotation axis of the earth ie pointing approximately to the pole star. I do not think that you can use a horizontal gnomon with a vertical dial to record the passage of modern hours. However, you mig

RE: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread jlynes
Note that the hour markings will be reversed about solar noon. In the northern hemisphere the shadow moves anticlockwise on a vertical surface. John Lynes --- On Wed, 10/9/08, The Thurstons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: The Thurstons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: V

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread Th. Taudin Chabot
If you create another horizontal gnomon on a digfferent distance of the sundial face you have bifilair sundial. It reads the time/date from the crossing of the 2 shadows. Thibaud Chabot At 06:03 10-09-2008, Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET wrote: Sunny friends, For various reasons, I'm wanting to buil

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread Frans W. Maes
Keith, What you want is quite simple, once you grab the idea. Imagine a classical vertical dial, including its pole-style. Take one point somewhere on this style, and remove the style except this point. How to prevent it from falling down? Yes, put it on top of a supporting rod. In your case,

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread Mario Arnaldi
>The formula from Waugh should work fine but only for a dial with the gnomon > aligned to the rotation axis of the earth ie pointing approximately to the > pole star. I do not think that you can use a horizontal gnomon with a > vertical dial to record the passage of modern hours... ---

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
Dear Keith, Ah, that's not quite what most replies assumed! Yes, you certainly can calculate straight hourlines radiating out from the foot of an arbitrary-length horizontal gnomon for a particular date. Here's how I would solve it: As you may know or can probably visualise, a south-facing vertica

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-10 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello Keith, You posed a interesting question and have been getting good advice. 1. To show regular hours throughout the year, you need a polar gnomon. 2. Any point on that polar gnomon, the end or a node, traces the hour lines of interest 3. The shadow path of that point can be calculated

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-11 Thread Peter Mayer
Dear Keith, If you can accept a horizontal gnomon that is _almost_ horizonal, then my vote would be for a vertical Foster-Lambert dial. At latitude 30, the gnomon would be at 75 degrees. It could be of arbitrary length. And the dial itself is a 'doddle' (pardon for the Australianism) sinc

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon

2008-09-12 Thread fer de vries
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 4:25 AM Subject: Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon > Dear Keith, > If you can accept a horizontal gnomon that is _almost_ horizonal, > then my vote would be for a vertical Foster-Lambert dial. At latitude >

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon - almost there!

2008-09-30 Thread Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET
I'm getting much much closer on my date-specific south-facing vertical dial thanks to the help I've received from several on the list (and no thanks to Hurricane Ike which provided a couple of weeks of cloudy skies and distraction from dialing!) I'm down to solving what is probably a simple three

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon - almost there!

2008-09-30 Thread Chris Lusby Taylor
TED]> To: "sundial" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 8:34 PM Subject: Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon - almost there! > > I'm getting much much closer on my date-specific south-facing vertical > dial thanks to the help I'

Re: Vertical South dial with horizontal gnomon - Success! (I think)

2008-09-30 Thread Keith E. Brandt, WD9GET
Thanks to Chris Lusby Taylor and Jan Šafár( I think I finally got the calculations working for my dial. I found the VBA program I was using in Excel was inaccurate for the solar elevation and azimuth. Fortunately, the code had an update available and that fixed the errors in my spreadsheet. I had m