Re: FreeRunner does not boot although battery o.k.

If I suspend the phone - I can't power it up again! I think it's a software issue, since the old version (2007.2) had no trouble with this. I'm running 2008.9 (as far as I remember). Best regards Preben Joachim Ott skrev: > 2008/12/14 Timo Juhani Lindfors > >

Re: FreeRunner does not boot although battery o.k.

2008/12/15 Preben Holm : > If I suspend the phone - I can't power it up again! > > I think it's a software issue, since the old version (2007.2) had no > trouble with this. > I'm running 2008.9 (as far as I remember). have you got an up to date u-boot? lots of power problems have been fixed with t

Re: Sad Story

You might do better to read back on the emails ... the hardware fix is the kludge in my view - it is on one of the clock lines. They did this early on, and it did have an effect. THEN they found that it was improved by only clocking the SD card when neccessary (i.e., access). Then lastly, they di

German layout for usb keyboard?

Hi there! I just got my mini-usb-keyboard for my freerunner, and I'm very happy that it works "out of the box" - mostly, that is: How do I set a german layout for the keyboard under X? Normally, I would have done it by editing the xorg.conf, but since I can't find it, there has got to be another w

Re: Sad Story

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karthik Kumar wrote: >(Many many trollish and uninformed things) Karthik: I think I probably speak for a reasonable portion of the community when I say this: Go buy an iphone. Put your FreeRunner on ebay. You'll like the iphone - it has DRM and you

Stable Upgrade Anytime Soon?

It's been over a month now that opkg upgrade has produced nothing whatsoever. I know the "back to basics" are being worked on, but does anyone know how long until something makes it to the stable feed? I know part of my frustration relating to me venting on the whole "sad story" thread has been par

Re: pointless ranting was: Re: Sad Story

>> if you refuse to check archives and to read mails and instead insist on >> perpetuating your misstatement, nobody can help you! > > Then this link be updated. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03 i give up. you are deliberatly confusing things just to prove your point, imo. eot for me. __

Re: Sad Story

> Karthik: > > I think I probably speak for a reasonable portion of the community when > I say this: > > Go buy an iphone. Put your FreeRunner on ebay. You'll like the iphone - +1 ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmok

Re: Sad Story

On Monday 15 December 2008, Karthik Kumar wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Stefan Monnier > > wrote: > There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every > freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to > see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc. > >

/etc/init.d/fso-gpsd pid-file off by one

Could it be that the PID-file is written before the fork() rather than after it? Anyway, there can be only one fso-gpsd running, no PID-file needs to be created and a simple "killall -q fso-gpsd" is sufficient to terminate it. ___ support mailing list sup

Re: Sad Story

Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as you and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and unproductive thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't appear to be interested in getting solutions to whatever problems you may be having. Suggest

Re: Sad Story

Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from you (like saying, yes, we'll fix it) than buy our competitor's phone. If i had bought the competitors' phone, i wouldn't be cribbing now that i've bought your pho

Re: /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd pid-file off by one

Hi, On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 04:28:45PM +0100, Joachim Ott wrote: > Could it be that the PID-file is written before the fork() rather than after > it? fso-gpsd forks itself to the background. > Anyway, there can be only one fso-gpsd running, no PID-file needs to be > created and a simple "killal

Re: Other possible Echo Cause

> If you mute either the mic or the earpiece there is no echo. If you use the > wired headset there is no echo. The level of echo is affected by both the mic > gain and the earpiece level. Using the speakerphone gives much more echo, > which is expected because the volume is higher and the speaker

Re: German layout for usb keyboard?

2008/12/15 Konstantin > Hi there! > > I just got my mini-usb-keyboard for my freerunner, and I'm very happy that > it > works "out of the box" - mostly, that is: How do I set a german layout for > the > keyboard under X? Normally, I would have done it by editing the xorg.conf, > but > since I can

Re: Other possible Echo Cause

On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote: > I have been thinking about the possible causes for the echo bug. I > have a feeling that it's actually feedback and not an echo. I think > what's happening is the sound is being picked up by the mic and being > sent to the remote phone for an extra round

Re: JFFS2 warning: (1157) jffs2_sum_write_sumnode: Not enough space for summary, padsize = -1212

2008/12/15 Nathan Kinkade > 2008/12/14 Joachim Ott : > > I wonder what the 1157 means. Looking thru earlier logfiles, it happened > > once for Dec 1, 3 and 4, 3 times for Dec 10, 5 times for Dec 14 and just > > once some minutes ago for Dec 15. Needless to say that > > > > Filesystem

Re: pointless ranting was: Re: Sad Story

Arne, am I the only one paranoid here? How do we know that you're not just lying about GTA03 being only plain software. And, if you are, do we blame openmoko when it releases the actual GTA03 board next year? And, if you're not, why don't you instead fix the CURRENT GTA02 software? ;p -Karthik

Re: Sad Story

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karthik Kumar wrote: > Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix > it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from > you (like saying, yes, we'll fix it) than buy our competitor's phone. Um... when did op

Re: Other possible Echo Cause

On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote: > > It's possible, but the buzz is within the voice frequency range. If we > > could characterise the buzz sufficiently it may be possible to remove it > > by applying a suitable digital filter in the CPU, but a hardware fix is > > certainly preferable. > > I

SHR - GPRS

I know there are reports that GPRS does work with SHR. I've download the fso-config-util.py script and edited my apn settings, although for cingular/at&t, there is another number its supposed to dial but no place to put it in the script. When I hit connect, it just says, release. Any advice? Th

Re: SHR - GPRS

Hm, I'm on FSO (somewhat close to FSO, I'm a bit scared to update ;-)) but I get the same error message in the logs. However, gprs works fine with me (T-Mobile, USA). Have you checked if GPRS is working despite this error message? Dirk On 15.12.2008, at 14:16, Paul wrote: > I know there are

Re: SHR - GPRS

Am Monday 15 December 2008 20:16:14 schrieb Paul: > I know there are reports that GPRS does work with SHR. > > I've download the fso-config-util.py script and edited my apn > settings, although for cingular/at&t, there is another number its > supposed to dial but no place to put it in the script.

Re: Sad Story

Seeing the responses to criticism, it is clear why OpenMoko is where it is today. If a significant portion of the community is frustrated at the status of this project, the best course of action is to address the concerns of the community. Does telling people to buy an iphone accomplish anything

Re: SHR - GPRS

Thank you for your response. I honestly do not know where to begin. I am not receiving an error, it's just not connecting. I did try the internet and it is not connecting. I downloaded a copy of fso-config-util.py, I am uncertain if there is an official version of it. Is there an official howt

Re: SHR - GPRS

Hi, I tested new SHR image and GPRS works. Only ppp-generic module I must add to autostart. echo ppp-generic > /etc/modutils/ppp-generic update-modules ZS-Man Paul-10 wrote: > > I know there are reports that GPRS does work with SHR. > > I've download the fso-config-util.py script and edited

Re: SHR - GPRS

2008/12/15 Paul : > Thank you for your response. > > I honestly do not know where to begin. I am not receiving an error, > it's just not connecting. I did try the internet and it is not > connecting. > > I downloaded a copy of fso-config-util.py, I am uncertain if there is > an official version o

Re: Sad Story

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Dale Maggee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Karthik Kumar wrote: >> Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix >> it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from >> you (like saying, yes, we

Re: Sad Story

What were they doing before this thread then? Were they productive at all? If they were, this thread wouldn't exist. And, if they wanted to be productive, using this thread would be their worst excuse to do something. If they deliver, I'll stop talking on this thread. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:12

Re: Sad Story

> So, this kernel fix is a feature, according to Al Johnson? Then why do > they need a hardware fix? Unless I am missing something, this software > fix seems to be a lie. Or the hardware fix seems to be bogus anyway. > I have one of the earlier freerunners released, so I'm sure Openmoko > owes an

Re: Sad Story

Okay, Al. That's one of the most sensible replies on this thread; I hear ya. I'll dig deeper into this. Al Johnson wrote: > On Monday 15 December 2008, Karthik Kumar wrote: > >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Stefan Monnier >> >> wrote: >> >> There are still hardware problems that e

Re: Sad Story

Al Johnson wrote: > Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as you > and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and unproductive > thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't appear to be interested in > getting solutions to whatever problems

Re: Sad Story

Karthik Kumar escribió: What were they doing before this thread then? They were working as hard as they can, perhaps even harder. Me and many others have seen that, sorry you can't, but you will. Were they productive at all? If they were, this thread wouldn't exist. This thread exists

Re: Sad Story

Stefan Monnier writes: > - unreliable suspend (supposedly fixed in upcoming kernels) Yes, I have used stable-tracking 80f4b57fef now for 15 days and resume works as long as I have use "sleep 4; apm -s; sleep 4" to suspend (there is some race somewhere but this avoids it). > - constant re-registr

Re: Sad Story

Battery decay is not linear. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Stefan Monnier writes: >> - unreliable suspend (supposedly fixed in upcoming kernels) > > Yes, I have used stable-tracking 80f4b57fef now for 15 days and resume > works as long as I have use "sleep 4; apm

Re: Sad Story

Hi all, I'm quite impressed and dissapointed about what the mail I sent has caused. I could have not imagine it...I'm sorry. I would like to say what I think, trying not to reply or offend anyone so, please we can stop with this thread now, or at least this is my last mail. Open source is a m

Re: Sad Story

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Karthik Kumar wrote: >> I know better. I could debate that at great length, cuz it's pretty god damn obvious to us all that you don't know shit, but I've had a better Idea - I'm just gonna create a filter to automatically delete anything sent by you.

Re: Sad Story

On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 02:21 +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: > See, I do understand that they've got their own pressures. But by merely > trying to work on GTA03 (hardware or software), it's like they've thrown > their hands off the GTA02. And that's not the right attitude towards > that either. I hope

Re: Sad Story

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:21:55 +0530 Karthik Kumar babbled: > Al Johnson wrote: > > Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as > > you and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and > > unproductive thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't app

Re: /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd pid-file off by one

2008/12/15 Sascha Wessel > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 04:28:45PM +0100, Joachim Ott wrote: > > Could it be that the PID-file is written before the fork() rather than > after > > it? > > fso-gpsd forks itself to the background. That's what I wrote. The fucking PID-file is written before the fucking

Re: /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd pid-file off by one

Excuse me, you're surely trying to make a point here, but I could not follow because I was distracted by your unnecessary use of rude language. Please try to avoid that next time. -- :M: ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lis

Re: /etc/init.d/fso-gpsd pid-file off by one

Hi, On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 01:21:43AM +0100, Joachim Ott wrote: > 2008/12/15 Sascha Wessel > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 04:28:45PM +0100, Joachim Ott wrote: > > > Could it be that the PID-file is written before the fork() rather than > > after > > > it? > > > > fso-gpsd forks itself to the backgr

Re: SHR - GPRS

On Monday 15 December 2008, Paul wrote: > Thank you for your response. > > I honestly do not know where to begin. I am not receiving an error, > it's just not connecting. I did try the internet and it is not > connecting. fso-config-util.py just provides a GUI that passes parameters to org.free

Re: Sad Story

On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:43:32 +1100, Dale Maggee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Karthik Kumar wrote: >>> I know better. > > I could debate that at great length, cuz it's pretty god damn obvious to > us all that you don't know shit, but I've had a better Idea - I'm ju

Re: Sad Story

Instead of just bitching about me, why don't you do something constructive, dipshit^U? On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Joel Newkirk wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:43:32 +1100, Dale Maggee > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Karthik Kumar wrote: I know bette

Re: Sad Story

>From now on, I'm listening only if it's a complaint, or if Openmoko is fixing something on GTA02. I couldn't care less if Openmoko's moving on, because I'm moving on. Oh, the community's messages isn't going under my radar at all; Because if it's going legal, _ONLY_ Openmoko is going to get it's

FSO & Android (was: Sad Story)

Paul, > create a working phone. Passing the buck to FSO is passing the torch > to someone else. This is what OM has done. We are funding FSO. This is called teamwork :-) FSO concentrates on the framework, and standardizing interfaces for mobile phones. FSO = freesmartphone.org Openmoko concen