On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:47 PM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
>
> So, this kernel fix is a feature, according to Al Johnson? Then why do
> they need a hardware fix? Unless I am missing something, this software
> fix seems to be a lie. Or the hardware fix seems to be bogus anyway. I
> have one of the earl
Please don't mix teams, distributions, and efforts.
FSO is an initiative building a dbus-based framework for mobile devices, 100%
funded by Openmoko. The FSO team evolved out of Openmoko's Framework Team.
FSO provides a dbus API and a reference implementation that is supposed to run
on as many d
Wolfgang,
Thank you for your reply. I now understand the situation better.
My previous impression was that FSO and OM had a significantly
different code base and not terribly compatible with each other.
In any case, I am still hopeful for OM. The usability team, I felt,
was exactly what OM nee
Paul,
> create a working phone. Passing the buck to FSO is passing the torch
> to someone else. This is what OM has done.
We are funding FSO. This is called teamwork :-)
FSO concentrates on the framework, and standardizing interfaces for
mobile phones. FSO = freesmartphone.org
Openmoko concen
>From now on, I'm listening only if it's a complaint, or if Openmoko is
fixing something on GTA02. I couldn't care less if Openmoko's moving
on, because I'm moving on.
Oh, the community's messages isn't going under my radar at all;
Because if it's going legal, _ONLY_ Openmoko is going to get it's
Instead of just bitching about me, why don't you do something
constructive, dipshit^U?
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:09 AM, Joel Newkirk wrote:
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>> Karthik Kumar wrote:
I know bette
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:43:32 +1100, Dale Maggee
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> Karthik Kumar wrote:
>>> I know better.
>
> I could debate that at great length, cuz it's pretty god damn obvious to
> us all that you don't know shit, but I've had a better Idea - I'm ju
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:21:55 +0530 Karthik Kumar
babbled:
> Al Johnson wrote:
> > Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as
> > you and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and
> > unproductive thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't app
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 02:21 +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> See, I do understand that they've got their own pressures. But by merely
> trying to work on GTA03 (hardware or software), it's like they've thrown
> their hands off the GTA02. And that's not the right attitude towards
> that either. I hope
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Karthik Kumar wrote:
>> I know better.
I could debate that at great length, cuz it's pretty god damn obvious to
us all that you don't know shit, but I've had a better Idea - I'm just
gonna create a filter to automatically delete anything sent by you.
Hi all,
I'm quite impressed and dissapointed about what the mail I sent has caused. I
could have not imagine it...I'm sorry.
I would like to say what I think, trying not to reply or offend anyone so,
please we can stop with this thread now, or at least this is my last mail.
Open source is a m
Battery decay is not linear.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
wrote:
> Stefan Monnier writes:
>> - unreliable suspend (supposedly fixed in upcoming kernels)
>
> Yes, I have used stable-tracking 80f4b57fef now for 15 days and resume
> works as long as I have use "sleep 4; apm
Stefan Monnier writes:
> - unreliable suspend (supposedly fixed in upcoming kernels)
Yes, I have used stable-tracking 80f4b57fef now for 15 days and resume
works as long as I have use "sleep 4; apm -s; sleep 4" to suspend
(there is some race somewhere but this avoids it).
> - constant re-registr
his thread exists becouse some bulgars stole Juan Cañate's FR,
remember? That is why
the subject was "sad story" in the first place. But eventhough it _is_
a sad story, you have
make it much more sad.
And, if they wanted to
be productive, using this thread would be their worst excuse
Al Johnson wrote:
> Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as you
> and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and unproductive
> thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't appear to be interested in
> getting solutions to whatever problems
Okay, Al. That's one of the most sensible replies on this thread; I hear
ya. I'll dig deeper into this.
Al Johnson wrote:
> On Monday 15 December 2008, Karthik Kumar wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Stefan Monnier
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There are still hardware problems that e
> So, this kernel fix is a feature, according to Al Johnson? Then why do
> they need a hardware fix? Unless I am missing something, this software
> fix seems to be a lie. Or the hardware fix seems to be bogus anyway.
> I have one of the earlier freerunners released, so I'm sure Openmoko
> owes an
What were they doing before this thread then? Were they productive at
all? If they were, this thread wouldn't exist. And, if they wanted to
be productive, using this thread would be their worst excuse to do
something.
If they deliver, I'll stop talking on this thread.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:12
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Dale Maggee wrote:
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> Karthik Kumar wrote:
>> Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix
>> it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from
>> you (like saying, yes, we
Seeing the responses to criticism, it is clear why OpenMoko is where
it is today. If a significant portion of the community is frustrated
at the status of this project, the best course of action is to address
the concerns of the community. Does telling people to buy an iphone
accomplish anything
Neither are representatives of Openmoko. They have bought phones just as you
and I have. I suspect that they are frustrated by this long and unproductive
thread, and by your perceived attitude. You don't appear to be interested in
getting solutions to whatever problems you may be having. Suggest
On Monday 15 December 2008, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Stefan Monnier
>
> wrote:
> There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
> freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
> see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
> >
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Karthik Kumar wrote:
> Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix
> it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from
> you (like saying, yes, we'll fix it) than buy our competitor's phone.
Um... when did op
Is that how you reply as a company which makes a phone? We can't fix
it so go buy our competitors' closed phones? I'd expect better from
you (like saying, yes, we'll fix it) than buy our competitor's phone.
If i had bought the competitors' phone, i wouldn't be cribbing now
that i've bought your pho
Arne, am I the only one paranoid here?
How do we know that you're not just lying about GTA03 being only plain
software. And, if you are, do we blame openmoko when it releases the
actual GTA03 board next year? And, if you're not, why don't you
instead fix the CURRENT GTA02 software?
;p
-Karthik
> Karthik:
>
> I think I probably speak for a reasonable portion of the community when
> I say this:
>
> Go buy an iphone. Put your FreeRunner on ebay. You'll like the iphone -
+1
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>> if you refuse to check archives and to read mails and instead insist on
>> perpetuating your misstatement, nobody can help you!
>
> Then this link be updated. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03
i give up.
you are deliberatly confusing things just to prove your point, imo.
eot for me.
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Karthik Kumar wrote:
>(Many many trollish and uninformed things)
Karthik:
I think I probably speak for a reasonable portion of the community when
I say this:
Go buy an iphone. Put your FreeRunner on ebay. You'll like the iphone -
it has DRM and you
You might do better to read back on the emails ... the hardware fix is
the kludge in my view - it is on one of the clock lines. They did this
early on, and it did have an effect. THEN they found that it was
improved by only clocking the SD card when neccessary (i.e., access).
Then lastly, they di
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Hi Karthik-
>>> hardware.
>> Huh? The kernel fix seems to work OK for those people who have old
>> FRs. Newer FRs have a hardware fix. E.g. my FR doesn't need any
>> kernel workaround. No need to wait for GTA03 to get a hardware fix.
>
> So, this
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
>> The kernel fix for GPS is a mere quirk. Ideally it should get
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:08 PM, arne anka wrote:
> by actually _READING_ mails for starters!
> the misunderstanding with the term gta03 has been corrected several times
> already!
> if you refuse to check archives and to read mails and instead insist on
> perpetuating your misstatement, nobody ca
>>> There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
>>> freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
>>> see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
> The kernel fix for GPS is a mere quirk. Ideally it should get fixed in
> hardware.
Huh? The kernel fix seems to work OK
On Sunday 14 December 2008 15:40:58 arne anka wrote:
...
> can't confirm that. the battery lasts as long as before -- about 48h,
> maybe more (i never let it run down more than about 35% which is reached
> after almost two days).
I presume you're talking about a gta02, which has a bigger battery. M
2008/12/13 Bobby Martin :
> As much as I hate to chime in on such a busy and unproductive thread...
Yeah, the same here.
> That's my whole reason for posting - to thank Andy, Harald, etc. etc. in the
> OM group, Lorn, etc. of Trolltech, mwester, Julien, quickdev, MarcOChapeau,
> etc. of the commu
>> > 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
>
>> does the relased firmware not apply?
> openmoko10 (or whatever that firmware was called) hasn't fixed the issue
> for me.
seems, i confused the issues the fw should fix, not #1024 but #666.
> And no, a software worka
polz writes:
> openmoko10 (or whatever that firmware was called) hasn't fixed the issue for
> me. And no, a software workaround which still drains the battery in less than
> a day IMO is not enough.
Have you actually measured that the workaround draws so much power?
>> > 3. A stable, FSO-based
On Sunday 14 December 2008, arne anka wrote:
> > 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
> > I know it's hard and I presume people from TI aren't being helpful since
> > solving this issue isn't going to be very profitable for them. Still,
> > please,
> > someone solve this!
On Sunday 14 December 2008 01:12:53 arne anka wrote:
> > 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
> does the relased firmware not apply?
openmoko10 (or whatever that firmware was called) hasn't fixed the issue for
me. And no, a software workaround which still drains the
> 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
> I know it's hard and I presume people from TI aren't being helpful since
> solving this issue isn't going to be very profitable for them. Still,
> please,
> someone solve this!
does the relased firmware not apply?
> 3. A stable
polz writes:
> 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
> I know it's hard and I presume people from TI aren't being helpful since
> solving this issue isn't going to be very profitable for them. Still, please,
> someone solve this!
Isn't the software workaround enough to
As a slightly iritated gta01 owner I'd personally like Openmoko to fix the
following bugs:
1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
I know it's hard and I presume people from TI aren't being helpful since
solving this issue isn't going to be very profitable for them. Still,
On Saturday 13 December 2008, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Stefan Monnier
>
> wrote:
> >> There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
> >> freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
> >> see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
>
> The
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:53 PM, Stefan Monnier
wrote:
>> There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
>> freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
>> see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
The kernel fix for GPS is a mere quirk. Ideally it should get fixed i
> There are still hardware problems that exist with almost every
> freerunner out there (GPS signal levels, for one). I would like to
> see them fixed by Openmoko, Inc.
I don't know of any remaining problems there. I thought my FR was
taking a long time to get a fix, but all evidence seems to in
oesn't work every
time, and is not a great solution.
(Is there any chance some future update of the NAND u-boot will make this a
thing of the past?)
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View this message in context:
http://n2.nabble.com/Sad-Story-tp1595419p1651767.html
Sent from the Openmoko Support
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Bobby Martin wrote:
> As much as I hate to chime in on such a busy and unproductive thread...
>
> When the GTA02 was sold, it was *for developers only*. It was very clear on
> the site. The software is not done. It is not stable. (That said, there
> are softwar
As much as I hate to chime in on such a busy and unproductive thread...
When the GTA02 was sold, it was *for developers only*. It was very clear on
the site. The software is not done. It is not stable. (That said, there
are software versions that give you good, stable access to most or all of
> If its a misunderstanding of GTA03 referring to something else, fine,
> I conceed. Honestly, how is anyone supposed to know that the gta03 is
> a software stack that used for the GTA02 device?
by actually _READING_ mails for starters!
the misunderstanding with the term gta03 has been corrected
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:47:40 -0500, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Andy Green wrote:
>> though so I think it's probably down to you to move a slider the once
>> until you are happy, awful imposition as that is.
>
> If there is a slider, you should have told me. I thought it was
Wolfgang,
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
> If you don't know you shouldn't pretend to know.
> I applaud the brave investors we have, we have a long way to go to
> make this an interesting investment for them, compared to many other
> places they could put their money. Luc
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Andy Green wrote:
> though so I think it's probably down to you to move a slider the once
> until you are happy, awful imposition as that is.
If there is a slider, you should have told me. I thought it was a
process of sshing into the device guessing the volume t
Here is a suggestion:
If the GPS hardwarer in GTA02 is wrong, would Openmoko consider fixing
it for all those who purchased Openmoko? They should ship back the
Freerunner, fix it and send it back to all owners.
And, (P.S. arne akka) here is a PDF which tells us about some
different better GPS hard
Wolfgang, thanks for an actual credible, thoughtful response...
Andy, do you actually work for openmoko? If you do, that is a very scary
thought that someone from openmoko would be shooting their mouth off and
disrespecting concerned members of the openmoko community, who are
expressing valid frust
Sargun,
thanks, agree with you.
> I want someone from FR (steve mosher? sean moss?) to post updates and
> a timeline. I want them to say when things will be fixed, what exact
> developments are going on at OM, etc... This has to be on a regular
> basis. They -need- a blog or a similar method to pu
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
> Actually I am thinking about trying to buy some gta01 back
> from the community. They are quite legendary and we have too few
> internally. 2 in Taipei, for example. We wish we could do more
> testing & bug-fixing on gta01. It's the same platform anyway, and in
> a
Karthik,
> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have to face bad consequences.
Honestly, together with pretty much everything else you say, it's wrong.
In fact internally I am known as the one who kicks people if they
don't post publicly :-)
Your pr
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate
| to even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort
| of recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
Yes. That th
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Marcus Stong wrote:
> A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate to
> even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
> recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
> $399 for a phone that never worked properly is pr
Paul,
> Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko,
> using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even
> EDGE). Yet we are OK with that.
If you don't know you shouldn't pretend to know.
I applaud the brave investors we have, we have a long way to go to
m
> A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate
> to
> even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
what is so hard in actually reading answers instead of repeating the same
wrong statement over an dover?
it has been stated several times alr
A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate to
even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of
recall and free replacement with a GTA03.
$399 for a phone that never worked properly is pretty hard to swallow, and
even harder to swallow when the comp
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:15 AM, john wrote:
> 2008/12/12 Karthik Kumar :
>> I will say this: Open source is philanthrophy. Making money is
>> alright. Using Open source to make money is acceptable.
>>
>> You see those EeePcs? It's Open source, people get what they pay for -
>> hardware and softwa
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I'm done talking to you, Andy. If you have anything to say that isn't
| Openmoko's selfishness, I'm going to listen to you.
Fine: please post back on the support list when you have some specific
support is
2008/12/12 Karthik Kumar :
> I will say this: Open source is philanthrophy. Making money is
> alright. Using Open source to make money is acceptable.
>
> You see those EeePcs? It's Open source, people get what they pay for -
> hardware and software.
>
>
You see that door? Close it on the way out ;
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 1:01 AM, Andy Green wrote:
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
> | Freerunner was released.
> | My bills will tell you when I have purchased the
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
| Freerunner was released.
| My bills will tell you when I have purchased the Freerunner.
| My Freerunner is available to prove the bugs in it
> In my opinion what Openmoko needs to do is release a solid hardware
> platform, until this happens software development will be delayed. If
> that means concentrating on the v03, then do it. From what I see the
> v03 looks like the v02, with a different SoC and minus the smedia
> (glamo) controll
The website of Openmoko's launch will tell you when the Openmoko
Freerunner was released.
My bills will tell you when I have purchased the Freerunner.
My Freerunner is available to prove the bugs in it.
As for the list of Bugs, I'll just take the list from the Trac you
have set up, with details of
Ah! legal recourse is certainly not the right path!
I have long stayed out of this discussion as it's mostly been trolling
about OpenMoko, but to be honest making a phone is hard...
I've personally worked on projects involving building consumer
electronics devices. We had far less success compared
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I agree with this whole thread of Openmoko's fatal mistake of moving on
| to GTA03 with GTA02 still being unstable and unusable as a primary
| phone. If GTA02 gets left behind in the dust without ever worki
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
| selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
| this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will j
I agree with this whole thread of Openmoko's fatal mistake of moving on
to GTA03 with GTA02 still being unstable and unusable as a primary
phone. If GTA02 gets left behind in the dust without ever working
properly, it doesn't say much for their company. If Openmoko feels the
hardware of GTA02 i
I will say this: Open source is philanthrophy. Making money is
alright. Using Open source to make money is acceptable.
You see those EeePcs? It's Open source, people get what they pay for -
hardware and software.
Now, claiming that because 'it's Open source, we allow you to do what
you want' is j
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| For instance, about the echo problem, one of the developers for
| OpenMoko stated "Since there are different hw versions out there (a5,
| a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits a
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
> selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have to face bad co
NINJA-PIRATES!
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
> selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
> this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
> get fired/have
I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's
selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for
this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just
get fired/have to face bad consequences.
What would be the best way to 'convince' or 'force'
My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner
has been frustrating most of the time. To say, its all on the user is
wrong. Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to
contribute when everything is so fragmented.
For instance, about the echo problem, one of
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Yeah, If I were going to file it a ticket, it would be this: 'Make
| Openmoko work all the time, in all these scenarios'. I'm sure my ticket
Well, every day I have to figure out what to spend time on, if y
Although I do agree with you that I'm whining, I ask you can to a look
at your own statements: 'Though not yet truly fixed', 'Usually', 'though
it's not tackled'
Let me say what I wanted to say: A phone would, should, must, work
reliably every time. If there is a 'slight' chance of error, it wo
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 9:30 AM, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 22:20 -0500, Joel Newkirk wrote:
> > If there's nothing YOU can do with the freerunner then it's just a
>
>
> For me, I would love to be able to guarantee that I can receive SMS
> messages with the same reliability as the
On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 22:20 -0500, Joel Newkirk wrote:
> If there's nothing YOU can do with the freerunner then it's just a
Joel do keep in mind you appear to be one of the lucky ones who has hit
on a combination where the FR works to a standard you are happy with -
not all of us (and I think that
If there's nothing YOU can do with the freerunner then it's just a
worthless paperweight - wanna sell it for $10? I might go to $20 if you
insist, it really is a pretty paperweight.
I'm sick of people whining like this. If you have a specific issue, raise
it, if you have a fix, post it. If you
It does make a good paper weight.
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Karthik Kumar wrote:
> Next week, not as of NOW. Clearly, the point was, they didn't get it
> right yet. So unless they have actually done something, there is
> nothing you can do with the freerunner.
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> 2.6.28-rc andy-tracking kernels. Starting next week the root
|> filesystems will be adapted for these kernels and we start to provide
|> packages for them.
| Next week, not as of NOW. Clearly, the point
Next week, not as of NOW. Clearly, the point was, they didn't get it
right yet. So unless they have actually done something, there is
nothing you can do with the freerunner.
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi,
|
| For instance, the Openmoko GPS signal level is bummed because of a
| hardware fault, also there are merely quirks to solve them. The
... which was worked around in kernel once the aggressor signal w
Hi,
For instance, the Openmoko GPS signal level is bummed because of a
hardware fault, also there are merely quirks to solve them. The
Openmoko battery discharging, suspend and resume have not been ironed
out fully yet. You would see these in _ANY_ basic phone out there. And
people have been givin
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Karthik Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> One of the things I would like to say here is that if Openmoko had
> actually made the OS & hardware work pretty reliably, we might at
> least be able to program it for such things (protection and what not)
>
> Else it's j
One of the things I would like to say here is that if Openmoko had
actually made the OS & hardware work pretty reliably, we might at
least be able to program it for such things (protection and what not)
Else it's just a matter of time before all Freerunners are stolen and
nothing could be done ab
I wouldn't worry about the robber coming home and beating you up for a
USB charger at all. It looks like many el-cheapo phones (<$60) come
with USB chargers and cables which also work with the Freerunner. That
makes it easier to steal the Freerunner though :(
Keeping a poison-pill splash screen so
That's what I would call "support" mailing list. lol :)
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El 10/12/2008, a las 04:57 p.m., Yorick Moko escribió:
> since there is a mini-usb port the robber will be able to find it out;
> he'll probably beat you to death for wasting his time with something
> tha
since there is a mini-usb port the robber will be able to find it out;
he'll probably beat you to death for wasting his time with something
that vagely looks like like a phone but that he can't get to work as
one even after tinkering with it for months :)
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Joachim
2008/12/10 Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I installed a poison pill in my phone. The splash screen when you turn it
> on has my picture, my address, and a little warning saying that the owner
> hasn't authorized it for sale. I decided if someone were to ever rob me of
> my phone, they would
On Sunday 30 November 2008 10:21:40 you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Last night a burglar stole my FR. I was in a car, with the window opened,
> playing with the GPS and when we stopped at a traffic light, two guys came by
> the back. I was in the right side of the back seat, one of these guys knocked
> o
Please move to [community]
this is he SUPPORT-ML!
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Juan-
I have a Free Runner I just don't have time to mess with. I might be willing
to sell it...
Condolences.
radtek
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Thomas White wrote:
>> Your service provider should know the IMEI number
>>
>
> I believe it's also written on a small sticky label on the bottom of
> the nice black Freerunner box, but I don't have mind to hand to test.
Just had a look at mine, and It is indeed on the bottom of the box.
-Dal
On Tue, 2 Dec 2008 08:13:15 -0500
"Seth Rothenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your service provider should know the IMEI number
I believe it's also written on a small sticky label on the bottom of
the nice black Freerunner box, but I don't have mind to hand to test.
Pulster also wrote it on my
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