Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread John Bailey
Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote: > The helpdesk support team will have local admin access in all the > computers. The members will be able to access the profile folders for > all users. In this case, I belive this is a not a secure solution. Local administrator access in itself, even to the server on whi

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
age- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Schierer > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:27 PM > To: support@pidgin.im > Subject: Re: Password encryption > > David Balazic wrote: > > Hi! > > > > No, there is a misunderst

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Luke Schierer
David Balazic wrote: Hi! No, there is a misunderstanding. I talked about 2 (more or less separate) things: - protecting the stored passwords The simplest way for this is enabling the Encryption in Windows on the .purple directory. This is as good as it gets. The only more secure way is not to

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Luke Schierer
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Schierer Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 4:51 PM To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption David Balazic wrote: Yes, but hiding it still has a purpose. Imagine this: - you open the config file in editor (for whatever purpose) - someone walks by and sees

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
Monday, March 17, 2008 4:51 PM > To: support@pidgin.im > Subject: Re: Password encryption > > David Balazic wrote: > > Yes, but hiding it still has a purpose. > > > > Imagine this: > > - you open the config file in editor (for whatever purpose) > > - someone

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Luke Schierer
David Balazic wrote: Yes, but hiding it still has a purpose. Imagine this: - you open the config file in editor (for whatever purpose) - someone walks by and sees your stored password A good and simple way to avoid this is: - pidgin creates a secret key and stores it by itself into a file -

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
alazic; support@pidgin.im > Subject: Re: Password encryption > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:57:14AM -0400, Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote: > > > i would like to hash the password so it should not be > visible even to > > the user who stores the password. > > Hashing th

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Etan Reisner
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 07:57:14AM -0400, Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote: > i would like to hash the password so it should not be visible even to > the user who stores the password. Hashing the password doesn't make it not visible to people, it just makes the hash visible instead of the plaintext versi

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Sascha Vogt
Hi Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote: > [... securing .purple] > The helpdesk support team will have local admin access in all the > computers. The members will be able to access the profile folders for > all users. In this case, I belive this is a not a secure solution. No matter how you "encrypt" your

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
, 2008 2:52 PM To: David Balazic; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption The helpdesk support team will have local admin access in all the computers. The members will be able to access the profile folders for all users. In

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Venkatasamy,Venkat
, March 17, 2008 9:49 AM To: Venkatasamy,Venkat; Peter Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption Of course. YOU can read it.. Noone else can. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
Subject: RE: Password encryption I tried encrypting the .purple folder and tested saving my password in the IM client. When I opened the accounts.xml I found my password uncrypted. From: David Balazic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Venkatasamy,Venkat
Robev Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption It _IS_ secure. This is not some "I wrote it during the weekend" encryption. It is real, tried and tested encryption. David From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
8 12:57 PM To: Peter Robev; David Balazic Cc: support@pidgin.im Subject: RE: Password encryption This is not going to help to solve the issue. I belive David refers to encrypting the .purple directory. But local administrators of the computer will

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread Venkatasamy,Venkat
visible even to the user who stores the password. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 9:55 AM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption ?? Where do you see that

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-17 Thread David Balazic
See picture. From: Peter Robev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:55 PM To: David Balazic Cc: Venkatasamy,Venkat; support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Password encryption

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-15 Thread Peter Robev
nt:* Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 > *To:* support@pidgin.im > *Subject:* Password encryption > > > We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when > they choose "Remember Password" options in the accounts windows. > > Is there any workaround for thi

RE: Password encryption

2008-03-15 Thread David Balazic
File(Directory) Properties / Advanced ... / Encrypt contents to secure data From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Venkatasamy,Venkat Sent: Fri 14-Mar-08 17:54 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Password encryption We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-14 Thread Mark Doliner
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:54:04 -0400, Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote > We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when > they choose "Remember Password" options in the accounts windows. > > Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in > any organization as loca

Re: Password encryption

2008-03-14 Thread Etan Reisner
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:54:04PM -0400, Venkatasamy,Venkat wrote: > > We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when > they choose "Remember Password" options in the accounts windows. > > Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any > organization

Password encryption

2008-03-14 Thread Venkatasamy,Venkat
We came to know that Pidgin does not encrypt the users' password when they choose "Remember Password" options in the accounts windows. Is there any workaround for this as this will be security issue in any organization as local administrators having access to the .purple folder. Thanks Venkat