Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Craig
On 10/25/2009 05:59 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: - just meet me at the usual place, the Karaoke bar :) Ah! Perhaps a paypal account for a singing instructor? enjoy, -Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://li

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-25 Thread NoOp
On 10/24/2009 04:03 AM, Benoit Renard wrote: > NoOp wrote: >> There two other methods that you can try: >> >> 1. Right-click on the Inbox folder, select 'Rebuild Summary File'. >> >> If that doesn't work: >> >> 2. Close SeaMonkey and delete (or better yet, rename) the inbox .msf >> files, see: >

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread asmpgmr
On Oct 25, 4:52 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: > asmpgmr wrote: > > Now I realize this is subjective and that you think "progress dialogs > > are soo backwards, only really old software uses such a thing". > > That's not what I think but you seem to be so convinced that I do that > you ignore anything I

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
Craig wrote: Btw, how was the release party? Any embarrassing photos? I would've loved to drop by but I found myself on the wrong continent... The party is on Monday, i.e. still about 18 hours away - and it won't be very embarassing, as it's still on the day _before_ the actual release and th

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
asmpgmr wrote: Now I realize this is subjective and that you think "progress dialogs are soo backwards, only really old software uses such a thing". That's not what I think but you seem to be so convinced that I do that you ignore anything I'm saying anyhow, it seems. Robert Kaiser _

Re: Migrate SM1 profile to SM2

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: If I want to migrate an SM1 profile to SM2 on a new Windows 7 machine, do I have to have SM1 installed, or can I just copy the SM1 profile to my new machine and import it to SM2? SM1 itself is not needed, but probably

Re: Incoming mail gone

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Serge Popper wrote: Daniel wrote: Serge Popper wrote: Installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 a couple of weeks ago and have had no problems until tonight. When I started SeaMonkey, my incoming mail folder opened normally but was not downloading my new mail. I clicked on the get messages and a little wi

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: For example I've always thought Tabs was not what most users wanted, because it was a gee-whiz-bang feature that was in IE. we had to have it. You're wrong. OR, how about killing javascript, in Thunderbird. Security risk, as pointed out above. Th

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Phillip Jones wrote: Daniel wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel wrote: Robert, if I read your reply properly, there is a part of the SeaMonkey download that is completely, as things stand now! Why is it then included at all?? Because extensions can use it. And it's not much download space, JS code compressed quite well. And,

Re: Migrate SM1 profile to SM2

2009-10-25 Thread Jens Hatlak
Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: If I want to migrate an SM1 profile to SM2 on a new Windows 7 machine, do I have to have SM1 installed, or can I just copy the SM1 profile to my new machine and import it to SM2? SM1 itself is not needed, but probably its profile databas

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-25 Thread Smiles
Ray_Net wrote: Smiles wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: NoOp wrote: There two other methods that you can try: 1. Right-click on the Inbox folder, select 'Rebuild Summary File'. If that doesn't work: 2. Close SeaMonkey and delete (or better yet, rename) the inbox .msf files, see: h

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-25 Thread Ray_Net
Smiles wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: NoOp wrote: There two other methods that you can try: 1. Right-click on the Inbox folder, select 'Rebuild Summary File'. If that doesn't work: 2. Close SeaMonkey and delete (or better yet, rename) the inbox .msf files, see: http://seamonkey.

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Ray_Net
Phillip Jones wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It doesn't have a place in

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Jens Hatlak
Paul B. Gallagher wrote I think it's dysfunctional to have a download process complete silently without telling me it succeeded, or worse yet, stall silently without telling me there's a problem. I don't know when I can go open the file, or if it's even there. I think neither the Download Manag

message filters

2009-10-25 Thread Smiles
Fun times regrettable as it is my boss has made a Google group for subcontractor to contact I would like to set up a mail filter based on emails forwarded from them. I could enter all 500 emails in to a list but would prefer to use the "from" email address which Google uses but there is no "

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Ricardo Palomares Martí­nez
Phillip Jones escribió: > Robert Kaiser wrote: >> asmpgmr wrote: >>> Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI >>> to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: >>> "Download progress dialogs ? Eww!"). There really is no reason why >>> this can't look mor

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Well the tiny round buttons aren't good. I've never seen any app have buttons like that, it needs normal buttons. Also what do you perceive as wrong with the 1.x design ? It looks perfectly fine to me. People who don't like dialogs can use the download manager

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread asmpgmr
On Oct 25, 10:37 am, Robert Kaiser wrote: > asmpgmr wrote: > > Well the tiny round buttons aren't good. I've never seen any app have > > buttons like that, it needs normal buttons. Also what do you perceive > > as wrong with the 1.x design ? It looks perfectly fine to me. People > > who don't like

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 25, 10:02 am, Robert Kaiser wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I think it's dysfunctional to have a download process complete silently without telling me it succeeded, or worse yet, stall silently without telling me there's a problem. I don't know when I can go open the file

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: asmpgmr wrote: I don't like tabs either and see them as a pointless waste of screen space when the OS already has window management and its own taskbar which can be hidden The taskbar becomes less efficient the more buttons it has. Having tabs means that your taskbar is n

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It doesn't have a place in e-mail messages in th

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Craig
On 10/24/2009 12:33 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Craig wrote: Sorry if this info is self-evident but I looked in 2.0 RC's release notes, and elsewhere, and came up dry. Is the gloda search engine a part of Seamonkey 2.0? gloda is a database backend that allows indexing of messages, it's not a sea

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Benoit Renard wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Tabs waste resources. Each page in a tab as cache and use memory to store. While I have 2 GB Memory in current Laptop with today's web pages that can be easily filled up is I have a bunch of Tabs open. What are you talking about? I only have 160 MB of

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Keith Whaley
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Well the tiny round buttons aren't good. I've never seen any app have buttons like that, it needs normal buttons. Also what do you perceive as wrong with the 1.x design ? It looks perfectly fine to me. People who don't like dialogs can use the download manager

Re: Incoming mail gone

2009-10-25 Thread Serge Popper
Daniel wrote: Serge Popper wrote: Installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 a couple of weeks ago and have had no problems until tonight. When I started SeaMonkey, my incoming mail folder opened normally but was not downloading my new mail. I clicked on the get messages and a little widow opened saying som

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
asmpgmr wrote: Well the tiny round buttons aren't good. I've never seen any app have buttons like that, it needs normal buttons. Also what do you perceive as wrong with the 1.x design ? It looks perfectly fine to me. People who don't like dialogs can use the download manager and that's great, the

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread asmpgmr
On Oct 25, 10:02 am, Robert Kaiser wrote: > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > > I think it's dysfunctional to have a download process complete silently > > without telling me it succeeded, or worse yet, stall silently without > > telling me there's a problem. I don't know when I can go open the file, > >

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I think it's dysfunctional to have a download process complete silently without telling me it succeeded, or worse yet, stall silently without telling me there's a problem. I don't know when I can go open the file, or if it's even there. I agree that the new design has p

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread asmpgmr
On Oct 25, 8:14 am, Neil wrote: > asmpgmr wrote: > >Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be > >less usable > > As with the loss of the About dialog, this was fallout from the > conversion from XPFE to Toolkit, which (surprise) has no progress > dialogs either,

Re: SeaMonkey 2 should remember zoom setting

2009-10-25 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:41:45 -0400, /David Wilkinson/: FireFox 3 remembers the zoom setting for each site, so that when you go there again it still looks the way you want. But SM2 does not have this feature. Why not? Is there (or will there be) an extension to do this? AFAIK it is Firefox spec

SeaMonkey 2 should remember zoom setting

2009-10-25 Thread David Wilkinson
FireFox 3 remembers the zoom setting for each site, so that when you go there again it still looks the way you want. But SM2 does not have this feature. Why not? Is there (or will there be) an extension to do this? For me this is pretty much a deal breaker on the computer attached to my 46" HD

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:36:01 +0100, /Benoit Renard/: Plus, with tabs, I can rearrange them with drag&drop. Something that Windows couldn't do with its taskbar until Windows 7! For this I'm using Taskbar Shuffle - very handy. -- Stanimir _

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: "Download progress dialogs ? Eww!"). There really is no reason why this can't look more or less the sam

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you might be one of our users, you are

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Neil
asmpgmr wrote: Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable As with the loss of the About dialog, this was fallout from the conversion from XPFE to Toolkit, which (surprise) has no progress dialogs either, so from my point of view you should be luck

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: I've got a PNG image of the dialog or Modal window if you want to see it. He meant how the dialog's code looks, not how the dialog itself looks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: For example I've always thought Tabs was not what most users wanted, because it was a gee-whiz-bang feature that was in IE. we had to have it. You're wrong. OR, how about killing javascript, in Thunderbird. Security risk, as pointed out above. There was a Feature in C

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
asmpgmr wrote: I don't like tabs either and see them as a pointless waste of screen space when the OS already has window management and its own taskbar which can be hidden The taskbar becomes less efficient the more buttons it has. Having tabs means that your taskbar is not cluttered with tons

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). If I remember correctly, Maxthon was first with tabs, but that was a shell for IE. Opera was the first web browser to be shipped with tabs bu

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: And if I were to use Thunderbird I actually like Postbox better because the last one I downloaded still allowed javascript in email. You do realise that JavaScript in mail is a big security risk, right? It doesn't have a place in e-mail messages in the first place. It's a

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Benoit Renard
Phillip Jones wrote: Tabs waste resources. Each page in a tab as cache and use memory to store. While I have 2 GB Memory in current Laptop with today's web pages that can be easily filled up is I have a bunch of Tabs open. What are you talking about? I only have 160 MB of RAM, and I can easily

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-25 Thread Smiles
Ray_Net wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: NoOp wrote: There two other methods that you can try: 1. Right-click on the Inbox folder, select 'Rebuild Summary File'. If that doesn't work: 2. Close SeaMonkey and delete (or better yet, rename) the inbox .msf files, see: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profil

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: asmpgmr wrote: Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: "Download progress dialogs ? Eww!"). There really is no reason why this can't look more or less the same as SeaMonkey 1.x If y

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you might be one of our us

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Daniel wrote: ---snip--- Phillip, if you painted your house Green, because you liked Green, would it matter to you if someone suggested you should have painted it Blue?? Or even a slightly different shade of Green?? The Guys that are doing the development are th

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Phillip Jones
Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 10/23/09 18:32, Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. The think they no more how a program should look like than the users that have to use it. Good God, have you a bone to pick or someth

mail on 2.0 RC2

2009-10-25 Thread Dale DePriest
A couple of things happened to me this morning. 1. If I junk the next to last email in my unread list I see the last email in my view email window but it is missing (disappeared) from the list of messages window and nothing in the list of messages window is highlighted. If I press delete inste

Re: Migrate SM1 profile to SM2

2009-10-25 Thread David Wilkinson
Daniel wrote: Jens, shouldn't David be able to just create a new profile name in SM 2.0's Profile Manager and point it to the SM 1 profile's location having copied it to the new machine? Yes, this is what I am wondering. This is how I move profiles between SeaMonkey 1.x installations on diffe

Re: leave message on server

2009-10-25 Thread Tom S.
Smiles wrote: good day I have had a problem with my computer so I stop deleting emails from my pop server now the problem is fixed I did a test download from one of my accounts but did not bring everything down just the new items than the server deleted all items. On two accounts I must redownl

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
Daniel wrote: Robert, if I read your reply properly, there is a part of the SeaMonkey download that is completely, as things stand now! Why is it then included at all?? Because extensions can use it. And it's not much download space, JS code compressed quite well. And, btw, SeaMonkey 2.0 is

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Robert Kaiser
asmpgmr wrote: Granted but why do things like change the download progress dialog UI to be less usable because you don't like dialogs (Your words: "Download progress dialogs ? Eww!"). There really is no reason why this can't look more or less the same as SeaMonkey 1.x If you love ugly, then you

Re: Seamonkey won't publish to www ftp address

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Freitag
cj schrieb: > My ISP's ftp address is "www.username.talktalk.net" instead of the > usual "ftp.username.com" > > I think this is preventing me from publishing my web pages from > composer. > > Has anyone got a solution??? Why should a subdomain influence the ftp-connection? I've been using subdo

Re: Seamonkey mail better in Linux than in Windows 7

2009-10-25 Thread Martin Freitag
Rod Lovett schrieb: > Hi, > I notice that in Linux composing mail in Seamonkey mail, and copying > and pasting images to the main body of the message is easy. > This fails in XP, Vista and Windows 7 especially, no image is > transferred to the main body of the message on copying and pasting. Wh

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Daniel wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Craig wrote: Sorry if this info is self-evident but I looked in 2.0 RC's release notes, and elsewhere, and came up dry. Is the gloda search engine a part of Seamonkey 2.0? gloda is a database backend that allows indexing of messages, it's not a search engi

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
asmpgmr wrote: On Oct 24, 5:40 pm, Robert Kaiser wrote: 1) Tabs were not in IE until very recently (IE7) while Mozilla has had them for ages (Opera was the first tabbed browser, though). 2) The vast majority of users love tabs, please accept that while you might be one of our users, you are no

Re: SM 2.0 RC2: will modal window for About:SeaMonkey return?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Developers never, ever, ever, ever listen to end users. Then it's good that SeaMonkey is being developed by users. Or did you complain that different users have different opinions about what they want? Robert Kaiser Its bein

Re: Seamonkey 1.1.18 -- How to: NOT download messages on server first time in.

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Keith Whaley wrote: jim wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:55:35 -0400, jim in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: Seamonkey 1.1.18 -- How to: NOT download messages on server first time in Win Xp SP2 Seamonkey 1.1.18 Obviously this is a simple setting -- somewhere. I did not find it. Where do y

Re: Migrate SM1 profile to SM2

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Jens Hatlak wrote: David Wilkinson wrote: If I want to migrate an SM1 profile to SM2 on a new Windows 7 machine, do I have to have SM1 installed, or can I just copy the SM1 profile to my new machine and import it to SM2? SM1 itself is not needed, but probably its profile database, a file call

Re: testing server settings. please ignore.

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Stan wrote: Having trouble posting thru a different news server and trying to pin down problem. Stan, many news servers have test groups specifically for the purpose of testing connections without annoying normal users, e.g. on this server post tests to mozilla.test. HTH Daniel ___

Re: Is gloda enabled in SM 2.0?

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Robert Kaiser wrote: Craig wrote: Sorry if this info is self-evident but I looked in 2.0 RC's release notes, and elsewhere, and came up dry. Is the gloda search engine a part of Seamonkey 2.0? gloda is a database backend that allows indexing of messages, it's not a search engine. Apart from

Re: xatom != none failed

2009-10-25 Thread Daniel
Thomas H. George wrote: Seamonkey crashes when I enter www.cnn.com with the error message (seamonkey-bin:25788): gdk-CRITICAL **:gdk_x11_xatom_to_atom_for_display: assertion `xatom != none` failed. My system is Debian Sqeeze, ATM 64 2x Dual Core Processor. I suspect the problem may be with plug