Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-23 Thread Felix Miata
Danny Kile composed on 2017-04-20 11:23 (UTC-0400): > So maybe you can tell me this why do they need to sniff at all? Only because their design methods are broken is there to them an apparent need, and this largely or mostly because of their determination to exercise maximum control over how you

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-22 Thread Daniel
On 22/04/2017 8:01 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote on 20-04-17 11:38: On 20/04/2017 2:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 19-04-17 10:58: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-21 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel wrote on 20-04-17 11:38: On 20/04/2017 2:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 19-04-17 10:58: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread djc
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Danny Kile wrote: Daniel wrote: On 20/04/2017 6:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Actually, I didn't. You should have deleted that attribution line when you deleted my text, to make it clear you were quoting Daniel. Yeap!! Long time ago, I came across the saying

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Danny Kile wrote: Daniel wrote: On 20/04/2017 6:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Actually, I didn't. You should have deleted that attribution line when you deleted my text, to make it clear you were quoting Daniel. Yeap!! Long time ago, I came across the saying "When you do something, do

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Danny Kile
Daniel wrote: On 20/04/2017 6:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Yeap!! Long time ago, I came across the saying "When you do something, do it once, do it well, and move on!" Sort of been my motto! If web sites were correctly coded, or sniffed correctly, these problems would not be a bother. So

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Daniel
On 20/04/2017 6:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Yes this their fault - a great number of webmasters are doing the same fault. It is faster and easier to change the default UA string to FireFox than convincing ALL webmasters to change their coding. But most of the time, they

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Daniel
On 20/04/2017 2:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Richmond wrote on 19-04-17 10:58: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ray_Net wrote: Yes this their fault - a great number of webmasters are doing the same fault. It is faster and easier to change the default UA string to FireFox than convincing ALL webmasters to change their coding. But most of the time, they don't want to change their coding and more ... they

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-20 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 19-04-17 20:14: Ray_Net wrote: I disagree with that, because it would not be correctly identifying the browser. Who's care ? Nobody knows SeaMonkey - and they don't want to know Tell me WHY SM must identify itself as SM ? .. when a lot of SM people change the UA

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: >> I disagree with that, because it would not be correctly identifying the >> browser. >> >> > Who's care ? Nobody knows SeaMonkey - and they don't want to know > > Tell me WHY SM must identify itself as SM ? .. when a lot of SM people > change the UA string reflecting ONLY

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Ray_Net
Richmond wrote on 19-04-17 10:58: Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread njoracle
Danny Kile wrote: > Arnie Goetchius wrote: > I override my UA with: >>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 >> >> Do you override using the UA on Pref Bar or by modifying user.js or some >> other >> procedure? >> >> > I us an extension called PrefBar > >

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Jonathan Wilson
I reported it to google via their feedback some time ago. Maybe one day they will fix it. When they are not too busy pretending electric driverless cars are a good idea Getting Google to fix things like this is nearly impossible in my experience. I discovered a case where the Microb browser

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Danny Kile
Arnie Goetchius wrote: I override my UA with: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 Do you override using the UA on Pref Bar or by modifying user.js or some other procedure? I us an extension called PrefBar http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Arnie Goetchius
Danny Kile wrote: > J. Weaver Jr. wrote: >> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: >>> Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or >>> another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain >>> Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. >>> FRG >> >> That was

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-19 Thread Richmond
Ray_Net wrote: > Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: >> J. Weaver Jr. wrote: >>> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Felix Miata
Ray_Net composed on 2017-04-18 18:12 (UTC+0200): > Danny Kile wrote: >> I override my UA with: >> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0 >> This resolved the problem thank you to all that replied. To whom did >> you file the complaint with? URL or address

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Dirk Munk
Ray_Net wrote: Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them.

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Ray_Net
Danny Kile wrote on 18-04-17 17:37: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG That was it

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Danny Kile
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG That was it - thanks. UA override added,

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread J. Weaver Jr.
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG That was it - thanks. UA override added, complaint filed. -JW

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Felix Miata
Frank-Rainer Grahl composed on 2017-04-18 10:00 (UTC+0200): The Mozilla organization as a whole gives a rats a** about SeaMonkey. True. They are only interested in Firefox at this point in time. False. Bugzilla, Rust, Cloud, MarketPlace, Page-Shot and other resource thieves also have

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
The Mozilla organization as a whole gives a rats a** about SeaMonkey. They are only interested in Firefox at this point in time. Thankfully a look of great individuals still work there and help out. FRG Dirk Munk wrote: Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing.

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Dirk Munk
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG I get your point, but shouldn't it be the responsibility of the

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you use prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG Broken here with 2.46 as the OP described. Unchecking "Advertise

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-18 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Google is doing incorrect user agent sniffing. If you user prefbar or another user agent switcher and change the user agent to a plain Firefox one for google it works. Please complain to them. FRG J. Weaver Jr. wrote: Danny Kile wrote: I need help getting SeaMonkey to work correctly. Doing a

Re: Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-17 Thread J. Weaver Jr.
Danny Kile wrote: I need help getting SeaMonkey to work correctly. Doing a Google search such as this link: https://www.google.com/#q=restaurants+orlando+near+orlando When I get the search results it displays a small map and several search results locations clicking on any of the results or

Having a Problem with Google Search but only with SeaMonkey

2017-04-17 Thread Danny Kile
I need help getting SeaMonkey to work correctly. Doing a Google search such as this link: https://www.google.com/#q=restaurants+orlando+near+orlando When I get the search results it displays a small map and several search results locations clicking on any of the results or the small map take