Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass

Is it worth considering the different experiences of ‘listening to music at home’ and ‘going to a concert’. In my experience concert going is considerably more sonically rewarding. I would also say that this was not genre specific. I work a lot in rock, pop and dance music but I have recently be

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass

ct. Michael - Original Message - Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass From: "Richard Lee" Date: 4/25/15 3:27 am To: "'Surround Sound discussion group'" The question isn't whether 'music' has frequencies below 1/zillion Hz. It

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass

The question isn't whether 'music' has frequencies below 1/zillion Hz. It's whether such content adds to the MUSIC. This is the case ONLY with organs reproduced properly. You can check this with DBLTs. The speaker that has come out top in every single DBLT it has been in nearly 2 decades (som

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

On 2015-04-22, Peter Lennox wrote: I'd be interested in any references indicating deleterious effects on hearing of high amplitudes at LF, if anyone comes across any No references from me, as usual, but there is a certain logic behind the claim. First, because of the loudness sensitivity curv

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Considering most popular music these days is of the electronic variety or contains electronic processing. It all contains sub below 30, albeit rolled off down to 20. I don't know of a mix or record I have done that doesn't contain sub below 30. I manage it though to keep some headroom. Sympathetic

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

I think my use of the word significant was unwise but I would be interested to hear from anyone else who has looked in the lower spectrum below 30 Hz and found content. In measurements I made, just looking at a local orchestra, there was energy going down below 20hz The heating system was clearly

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Legislative bodies almost all use the A weighted scale. This is usually because they are usually environmental health departments. The A weighted scale is useful as it is a good indication if a noise is annoying (usually at night time) which is their prime consideration. It is also available on

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

I too doubt that most music has sub 20hz material except for some organ and percussion, electronic music and other recordings utilizing sub-harmonic synthesizers. Another obvious source of sub 20hz sound is unwanted environmental noise such as HVAC, traffic etc. Bill Houston Sent from my iPho

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

threshold"? JASA > 107, 496 - 500 2000. > > > Dr. Peter Lennox > Senior Lecturer in Perception > College of Arts > University of Derby, UK > e: p.len...@derby.ac.uk > t: 01332 593155 > > > -Original Message----- > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-b

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

pril 2015 05:24 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass. Increasing European legislation is pushing concert levels to a maximum of 100dBA over a 10-15min LEQ. In doors in France the norm is 103 dBA over 10 mins. Switzerland has a generous 100dBA over

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

r Lennox >> <mailto:p.len...@derby.ac.uk <mailto:p.len...@derby.ac.uk>>> wrote: > >>> I'd be interested in any references indicating deleterious effects on > >> hearing of high amplitudes at LF, if anyone comes across any > >>> cheers > &g

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

I think what people mean when legislation measuring at 100 dB-A is an oxymoron. dBA was meant to mimic the equal-loudness curve at low level of listening (around 40 dB spl @ 1k) and is absolutely not representative of the relatively linear curve around 100 dB SPL @1k. The wikipedia articles on

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Increasing European legislation is pushing concert levels to a maximum of 100dBA over a 10-15min LEQ. In doors in France the norm is 103 dBA over 10 mins. Switzerland has a generous 100dBA over 60 minutes. At open air festivals the level can be as low as 95dBA or 10 minutes. The days of unrestra

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

5 19:20 > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass. > > On 04/22/2015 06:49 PM, jon burton wrote: > > Hi I am new to the group but hoping someone may be able to help. I > > am looking at the positive effects of low frequencies in music, >

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

On 04/22/2015 10:50 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the bass a lot. So there is plenty anecdotal eviden

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Not sure I would consider it a negative, as it does increase my listening pleasure! Hopefully the audiences too :-) Steve -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 08:20:36PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > Well, it's not a secret that most live sound engineers, when faced > with a 99dB(A) rule, will mix into the A curve, i.e. crank up the > bass a lot. So there is plenty anecdotal evidence for more bass > resulting in less weight

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

ssion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass. Thats interesting thanks Steve. I am looking for positives rather than negatives! Jon Burton Research Student MSc University of York. jgb...@york.ac.uk > On 22 Apr 2015, at 21:21, Steven Boardman wrote: > > Hi Jon

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

gt;> College of Arts >>> University of Derby >>> >>> Tel: 01332 593155 >>> >>> From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu >>> <mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu> ] On Behalf >

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Peter Lennox > > Senior Fellow of the Higher Education Academy > > Senior Lecturer in Perception > > College of Arts > > University of Derby > > > > Tel: 01332 593155 > > ____ > > From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu ] On Behalf > Of Jörn Nett

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

t; Senior Lecturer in Perception > College of Arts > University of Derby > > Tel: 01332 593155 > > From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu ] On Behalf Of > Jörn Nettingsmeier [netti...@stackingdwarves.net ] > Sent: 22 April 201

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

93155 From: Sursound [sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Jörn Nettingsmeier [netti...@stackingdwarves.net] Sent: 22 April 2015 19:20 To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass. On 04/22/2015 06:49 PM, jon burton wrote:

Re: [Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

On 04/22/2015 06:49 PM, jon burton wrote: Hi I am new to the group but hoping someone may be able to help. I am looking at the positive effects of low frequencies in music, predominantly below 50Hz. This involves aural as well as mechanosensations. I am interested in seeing if reinforcing the lo

[Sursound] Infra sound & Sub bass.

Hi I am new to the group but hoping someone may be able to help. I am looking at the positive effects of low frequencies in music, predominantly below 50Hz. This involves aural as well as mechanosensations. I am interested in seeing if reinforcing the low frequency content below 50Hz can help p