[Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 09/24/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Malham wrote: On 23/09/2012 11:19, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:31:30AM +0100, Augustine Leudar wrote: except its not quite the same effect. If I hear a plan(ish) wave in nature such as in thunder or a very distant giant waterfall I doubt ver

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-24 Thread Dave Malham
Interesting point. I guess it has to do with statistics - but I don't know. Dave On 24 September 2012 18:49, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 09/24/2012 10:58 AM, Dave Malham wrote: >> >> >> On 23/09/2012 11:19, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:31:30AM +0100, Augustin

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-24 Thread Helmut Oellers
...let us describe the main relations again. The surface of the wave front radiate from point source increase by pi*d quadrat. For double distance 4times larger surface results. 10 log (1/4) = - 6,02 dB. Cylinder wave surface doubled by double distance. 10 log( 1/2)= -3 dB. Plane wave surface rem

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 07:49:42PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > on the other hand, i know that roads and highways are treated as > line sources as well for the purpose of emission control, i.e. with > 3dB attenuation per doubling of distance. > > maybe someone can explain why this should be

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:15:24PM +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > which is 2 * pi / d, i.e. proportional to 1 / d, hence -3dB for Oops, pi / d of course. Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and

Re: [Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

2012-09-27 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-09-24, Fons Adriaensen wrote: For a line of uncorrelated sources we have to add powers. Imagine the line source as the x-axis, with the origin being the point nearest to you. Let your distance be 'd'. Then the distance to a point 'x' on the line is sqrt(d^2 + x^d). The total power at d