Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-13 Thread Fabio Kaiser
There are hemispherical only systems out there. So layouts that use loudspeakers in the upper hemisphere only. Sorry for unclearness. Am 13.10.2012 um 08:57 schrieb Dave Malham: > Hi Fabio, >Did you actually mean that "there are only hemispherical > ambisonics systems out there" or am I m

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-12 Thread Dave Malham
Hi Fabio, Did you actually mean that "there are only hemispherical ambisonics systems out there" or am I misinterpreting what you said? 'Cos that suggests that there are no full sphere systems Dave On 12 October 2012 16:02, Fabio Kaiser wrote: > >> In practice, to preserve the AMB n

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-12 Thread Fabio Kaiser
> In practice, to preserve the AMB nature of the decoding you need the > first 'below the horizon' ring also for an hemisphere. For the 3rd > order layout I described earlier, that means you need the ring of 6 > at -45 degress elevation. At higher orders you would have more rings, > the first on

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-12 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Fabio Kaiser wrote: > So that means, for sound source directions in the near of the > horizon, speakers below the horizon also contribute and if I > leave them out I am missing something and get a false localization!? Yes. Typically everything will move

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2012-10-11, Fabio Kaiser wrote: So that means, for sound source directions in the near of the horizon, speakers below the horizon also contribute and if I leave them out I am missing something and get a false localization!? Exactly so. Controlled opposites (or in-phase) decoding can make s

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-11 Thread Martin Leese
Fabio Kaiser wrote: ... > So, Ambisonics in the end is also just creating phantom sources, just using > a little fancier approach!? Er ,,, maybe I am missing something, but surely most surround sound systems create phantom images. The alternative is to have a speaker in every desired direction wh

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-11 Thread Fabio Kaiser
Am 10.10.2012 um 22:57 schrieb Fons Adriaensen: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:03:04AM +0200, Fabio Kaiser wrote: > >> So my concern is with finding a uniform distribution of points >> on a hemisphere. Assuming L available points my approach of >> checking uniformity is that: >> >> - Making an ed

Re: [Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-10 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:03:04AM +0200, Fabio Kaiser wrote: > So my concern is with finding a uniform distribution of points > on a hemisphere. Assuming L available points my approach of > checking uniformity is that: > > - Making an educated guess of a L-point distribution on hemisphere > - M

[Sursound] Uniformity of hemispherical LS layout

2012-10-09 Thread Fabio Kaiser
Hi, I want to design a 3D-Audio loudspeaker system on a hemisphere compatible with Ambisonics playback. The system should have a horizontal ring of speakers but there is no restriction in number of Loudspeakers (so far!) and the elevated positions. So my concern is with finding a uniform dist