Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-03-04 Thread Dave Malham
Unfortunately I only ever had those two. I have got the NRDC's "Professional Decoder Design" folder which I think is in the Motherload - if not, I'll get the folder out, photo it and make another .pdf. Fortunately I know where that one is... Dave On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 00:31, Martin Leese

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-03-03 Thread Martin Leese
Dave Malham wrote: ... > Anyway, here's a link to the final .pdf of the NRDC > Report 3 on panpots, in Michael Gerzon's own handwriting. > https://www.dropbox.com/s/div42x63thc66tl/nrdc_report_3.pdf?dl=0 Hi Dave, If that is Report No. 3, I can't help wondering what was in the other reports. In

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-25 Thread Lucas
Ever poop on a bagel? Toast on cheese bruhhh On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 10:05 AM dan2...@yotz.org wrote: > Not sure what surprises me more... > 1) quad analog joystick panners are still being made > 2) there is such thing known as M and N tapers for pots (had to look that > one up) > 3) Or that

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-24 Thread Dave Malham
And here is NRDC's report 4 on spreader and reverb technology https://www.dropbox.com/s/097njklb862rsn0/report_4.pdf?dl=0 If I remember rightly, these two reports were submitted, in this format (without the coffee stains which are mine), as part of NRDC's submission to the FCC commission on

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-24 Thread Ralf R Radermacher
Am 24.02.20 um 12:11 schrieb Dave Malham: ...and OSX tools are much more awkward at doing pdf assembly from images. Try Vuescan. http://www.hamrick.com Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio :

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-24 Thread Dave Malham
Sorry this has taken so long but (a) it took several archaeological expeditions into my loft to find the original document and (b) my Windoze XP based scanner has died and OSX tools are much more awkward at doing pdf assembly from images. Anyway, here's a link to the final .pdf of the NRDC Report

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-20 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2020-02-20, Charlie Richmond wrote: 3) Or that Siri’s AI is advanced enough to pun by auto-correcting panner to planner - as these weren’t made for 3-D... I've been panning Siri's AI ever since it was released. And other auto-correcting apps too. I *so* saw that coming. :D -- Sampo

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-20 Thread Charlie Richmond
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 10:05, dan2...@yotz.org wrote: > Not sure what surprises me more... > 1) quad analog joystick panners are still being made > The panners I have, although new, were purchased many years ago from Alps. I don't think they are manufactured any more. 2) there is such thing

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-20 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le 20-02-20 à 13 h 05, dan2...@yotz.org a écrit : > 3) Or that Siri’s AI is advanced enough to pun by auto-correcting panner to > planner - as these weren’t made for 3-D... One spatial audio will be used by management classes, we'll see "3D audio" panning vocabulary inserted everywhere... So

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-20 Thread dan2...@yotz.org
Not sure what surprises me more... 1) quad analog joystick panners are still being made 2) there is such thing known as M and N tapers for pots (had to look that one up) 3) Or that Siri’s AI is advanced enough to pun by auto-correcting panner to planner - as these weren’t made for 3-D...

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Augustine Leudar
There should be an unsubscribe link near the bottom of this message Lucas On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, Lucas wrote: > Troll bot? Nahh just someone who shouldn't be in this conversation. Please > remove me from whatever, this is. > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 9:56 AM Augustine Leudar > wrote: >

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Lucas
Troll bot? Nahh just someone who shouldn't be in this conversation. Please remove me from whatever, this is. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 9:56 AM Augustine Leudar wrote: > Analogue trollbot? > > On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, Steven Boardman > > wrote: > > > Oh dear, this has got very analog……:) >

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Charlie Richmond
I have replied to Gus - if anyone else wants pictures, please let me know offlist. Cheers, Charlie On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 11:59, Augustine Leudar wrote: > Any chance of seeing a photo Charlie? I'm not looking to buy just curious - > did you ever make a panner that would do height as well? > >

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Augustine Leudar
Any chance of seeing a photo Charlie? I'm not looking to buy just curious - did you ever make a panner that would do height as well? On Wed, 19 Feb 2020, 19:17 Charlie Richmond, wrote: > > > > > > Otherwise I’d recommend getting a heavy duty joystick and replacing the > > pots with dual analog

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Charlie Richmond
> > > Otherwise I’d recommend getting a heavy duty joystick and replacing the > pots with dual analog tapers > I still have a bunch of these left over from when we produced quad consoles. Including the complementary dual M/N taper pots for each axis. If anyone wants to buy them, I'm

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Augustine Leudar
Analogue trollbot? On Wednesday, 19 February 2020, Steven Boardman wrote: > Oh dear, this has got very analog……:) > > > On 19 Feb 2020, at 17:26, Lucas wrote: > > > > But do you poop on bagels and fart? > > > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 12:07 AM Dan Yotz wrote: > > > >> I recall once seeing what

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Steven Boardman
Oh dear, this has got very analog……:) > On 19 Feb 2020, at 17:26, Lucas wrote: > > But do you poop on bagels and fart? > > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 12:07 AM Dan Yotz wrote: > >> I recall once seeing what i think was an eight channel board with quad >> joysticks on each channel ... in the road

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-19 Thread Lucas
But do you poop on bagels and fart? On Sun, Feb 16, 2020, 12:07 AM Dan Yotz wrote: > I recall once seeing what i think was an eight channel board with quad > joysticks on each channel ... in the road case it was around 3’x4’x18” and > weighed 2-300 lbs... sold for cheap... couldn’t bring

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Dave Malham
Somewhere I have MAG's original handwritten reports for the NRDC on (analog) soundfield controls, etc. I will see if I can find them tomorrow and post them. Might be of help to someone. Dave On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:27, Eero Aro wrote: > Oh what the h**k, I cannot find the schematics

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Augustine Leudar
Tx Eero On Monday, 17 February 2020, Eero Aro wrote: > And sorry, no parts list for the Pan/Rotate unit. > > Eero > ___ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Eero Aro
And sorry, no parts list for the Pan/Rotate unit. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Eero Aro
Oh what the h**k, I cannot find the schematics from Motherlode. Here you are: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4erj032gxafsd5/AAAEdeRr-FVm9YOK13OwtN2Ra?dl=0 Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Eero Aro
Finally, a Transcoder unit generating 2-channel UHJ only could be fed with stereo signals for front and rear stages with a stage width control on each. The Transcoder also has an B-Format input in an 5-pin XLR connector. Eero ___ Sursound mailing

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Eero Aro
The schematics are in the Ambisonic Motherlode: http://decoy.iki.fi/dsound/ambisonic/motherlode/ Somewhere in there.. Eero Richard Elen kirjoitti 17.2.2020 klo 11:57: The Audio & Design Recording boxes that Geoff Barton designed were intended as (analogue) outboard units that could be

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-17 Thread Richard Elen
The Audio & Design Recording boxes that Geoff Barton designed were intended as (analogue) outboard units that could be patched into a conventional mixing console to generate (mainly) first-order (all there was) Ambisonic B-Format. The Pan-Rotate unit included eight 360-degree controls, each

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Neil Adams
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Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
Peter that's amazing thanks so much for posting. I would love to have a go on it should you ever have time to dig it out!! On Sunday, 16 February 2020, Peter Carbines wrote: > On 16/02/2020 12:19, Augustine Leudar wrote: > >> I'm mainly interested in purely analog devices in this thread >> > >

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Peter Carbines
On 16/02/2020 12:19, Augustine Leudar wrote: I'm mainly interested in purely analog devices in this thread The small team I was involved in during the 1970s built a 4-input proof-of-concept Ambisonic mixer. We were interested in developing a mixer to produce B-format from multitrack

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Augustine Leudar
I'm mainly interested in purely analog devices in this thread, not just the feel of it. I've been using and making digital devices and controllers for years to manipulate 3D sound including Arduino, Kinect, Accelerometers, crystal balls etc etc and most of my exhibitions these days include some

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
The Question is it the feel of the controller or no computer involved most important? Create a controller or reuse an old one. Connect an imu to a mechanical controller of our choice :-) ohti https://github.com/bossesand/OHTI can be a starting point. Bno055 as imu. Using Arduino nano v3 gives

Re: [Sursound] analog planner

2020-02-16 Thread Dan Yotz
I recall once seeing what i think was an eight channel board with quad joysticks on each channel ... in the road case it was around 3’x4’x18” and weighed 2-300 lbs... sold for cheap... couldn’t bring myself to buy it and carry it around... Otherwise I’d recommend getting a heavy duty