Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On 2021-03-05, Ralph Glasgal wrote: Checkout the AES papers at www.ambiophonics.org. But basically if you have a front pair that was recorded with accurate values of ITD and ILD and a rear pair isolated from the front that also has accurate ITD and ILD then you can have a full circles of

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On 2021-03-05, Ralph Glasgal wrote: Well, I think 2.0, 4.0, 5.1, etc. sources can be spatialized using Ambiophonics which is not just for audiophiles but for video sound tracks and any form of industrial surround localization. Certainly, and I'm known to like the technique. I'm also known

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On 2021-03-05, Augustine Leudar wrote: You can try Spats Transaural thing. [...] Theoretically you cannot gather any more information from a static binaural recording than the first and second spherical harmonics. W and X. Dynamically, and using something like onset-offset-thinking, and

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On 2021-03-04, Marc Lavallée wrote: Mike, I already know how to use the ATK kernels in custom applications (a bit of convolution and the job is done). It's not quite that easy. Going from FOA (especially HOA) to binaural is rather easy, since you only have to average over the spherical

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On 2021-03-04, Augustine Leudar wrote: So I wondered; is there a method to "convert" binaural to horizontal-only FOA? Jumping in, after the fact. *If you know the transfer function which led to the binaural rendition, especially in movement, you essentially have in your hands an "infinite

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

are not the same. Ralph -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Marc Lavallée Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 2:47 PM To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? Yes, I know about ambiophonics... But ambiophonics would not work

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 2:42 AM Fons Adriaensen wrote: > That said, not all is lost. > > Conversion from binaural to stereo is possible using > something similar to > > < > http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/zita-bls1-doc/quickguide.html > > Fons, it's nice to see a practical

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

good mono. Regards, Ralph Glasgal -Original Message- From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Hunt Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 6:44 AM To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? Hi Marc, Yes, this is very difficult to do properly

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

Ciao, Dave Hunt On 4 Mar 2021, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: From: Marc Lavallée Subject: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? Date: 4 March 2021 at 13:55:42 GMT To: Surround Sound discussion group I have a "back to the basics" question. For a simple project I planne

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

ke some finding. > > > > Ciao, > > > > Dave Hunt > > > > > >> On 4 Mar 2021, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: > >> > >> From: Marc Lavallée > >> Subject: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? > >> Date: 4 March 2

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

I'll give zita-bls1 a try with a quad rig, and compare with ATK Super Stereo. I used zita-bls1 to enhance stereo recordings, an the resultst were impressive... It's often more fun to play with low-tech audio than HOA! :-) Thanks Marc Le 21-03-05 à 05 h 41, Fons Adriaensen a écrit : On

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

with extra speakers. The University of Southampton had something like that, but references might take some finding. Ciao, Dave Hunt On 4 Mar 2021, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: From: Marc Lavallée Subject: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? Date: 4 March 2021 at 13:55:42 GMT To: Surround

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

edu wrote: > > From: Marc Lavallée > Subject: [Sursound] binaural to FOA? > Date: 4 March 2021 at 13:55:42 GMT > To: Surround Sound discussion group > > > I have a "back to the basics" question. > > For a simple project I planned to record in FOA or HOA,

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 02:15:12PM +, Augustine Leudar wrote: > http://www.ambisonic.net/ambimix.html Or 'how to do FOA on a stereo mixer' 38 years ago... Amusing but pretty irrelevant today. Some simple facts: Horizontal FOA requires three _independent_ signals, W, X, Y. Binaural only

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

I believe you're right: binaural is just stereo with a twist. So hopefully the SuperStereo ATK kernel will work. There's probably other methods, and if they are linear I could capture them as IRs and apply them to the binaural recordings (in real time). I would also buy beers, but I don't go

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

Mike, I already know how to use the ATK kernels in custom applications (a bit of convolution and the job is done). I never tried the Super Stereo kernel, and I did not think about it for my use case. What's happening under the hood doesn't matter much (at this point), and I trust anything ATK.

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

Hi Marc, You may consider trying the “super stereo" technique to encoder your binaural recording into FOA. You could quickly audition this in Reaper using the ATK’s SuperStereo encoder. It has a very satisfying “wrap around” impression

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

should have said "quad will always be better than stereo" for installations On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 14:48, Augustine Leudar wrote: > yeah - I read the binaural to Bformat section. But the problem is with > what they describe there that I don't think it would be any different from > converting a

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

yeah - I read the binaural to Bformat section. But the problem is with what they describe there that I don't think it would be any different from converting a normal stereo signal to b format - in fact it could even be a little bit worse. Its nothing to do with Kemar heads - just the fact if you

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

Humans heads may be different from the mythic KEMAR dummy head, but for my use case I don't think it matters... I don't expect this "conversion" to be precise, or as a mean to archive binaural recordings using ambisonics; my intention is simply to use binaural recordings for an art

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

There might be something that uses crosstalk cancellation that might work for a normal two speaker (transaural) approach? Although I can't see how it would work for quad though - or why youd need to use ambisonics fo it. I know Spat has a binaural transaural converter - which can also convert to

Re: [Sursound] binaural to FOA?

I'm, not sure there would be Marc - I can see how it easy enough to convert in software ambisonics to binaural by convolving with HRTFs and potentially the other way round too if you used the same software that was convolving HRTFS to output Ambisonics (or even plain old quad) but a recording with

[Sursound] binaural to FOA?

I have a "back to the basics" question. For a simple project I planned to record in FOA or HOA, but the final render would be in simple quad (horizontal). So I don't need a lot of resolution. I enjoy recording with binaural microphones (the kind that looks like cheap earbuds), so I can record