On Thu, 1 May 2003 03:46 pm, martin wrote:
> paul van den bergen wrote:
> >Can some one direct me to a definitive answer on the transesterification
> >mechanism and in particular the role and nature of the catalyst?
>
> Paul,
> There isn't a true catalyst in the reaction. The sodium methoxide whic
The earlier statistic of deaths per total population was worthless and a
complete non-starter for conversation. It would have no relevance. To take it
to an extreme, put the billion plus Chinese in the denominator, most of who
don't have cars and have never driven. It would make it look like th
IIRC the airbags on US cars require an impact of around 20-25 mph. So...I
think they are roughly the same as what you are stating for Australia -
roughly 30 kph.
Most of the deaths and injuries associated with airbags were in front seat
passengers, especially children, incorrectly placed in ca
>sorry, it was Madsen who claimed it.
>
>according to the article the pope thinks that the Bush Administration knew
>about the 9-11 attack beforehand. Incorrect,
How do you know that? I'm not saying they did, and not saying you're
wrong, but maybe we could use just a little more than your usual
I'm afraid that an apology is in order on my part relative to this thread.
The previous (not so cute) one line snippet grossly detracted from the
seriousness of the concerns Wayne Madsen expressed
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/042803_vatican.html
If in any way the stupid one line dis
If you asked me, I would say that 'ol GWB not only "knew" about the 9/11
beforehand guys ... but in reality "caused" it. No, I have absolutely,
positively NO proof. It is a statement I make .. only from the chill I get
up my spine when I hear reports that ... I think a YEAR before 9/11 .. some
Actually it was Clinton that knew something was being planned, it was in
the news just after Sept. 11th.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
At 07:04 AM 5/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>If you asked me, I would say that 'ol GWB not only "knew" about the 9/11
>beforehand guys ... but in reality "caused" it. No,
Well, you admit you don't know anything. And, Steve speaks up like he knows,
but in reality he doesn't know anything either, or at least he hasn't proven
that he knows what he says he knows. And, this started because someone writes
an article that they think they know what the Pope knows about
One doesn't dig through a garbage can looking for a good piece of sandwich.
Most of the article was garbage, so I composted the whole thing. Of course,
the title of the article set the tone, so I shouldn't have been surprised.
Steve Spence
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That's ok, Madsen had no proof either. But because he's a journalist, we are
supposed to believe him
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http://jbcs.sbq.org.br/jbcs/1998/vol9_n3/30.pdf
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Ok, I concede that I look at our Government ... not as blocks of
"Administrations" ... but rather as one-long connected history of one-long
"corporation". The only difference being a change in "CEO". When I
made the comment of "it was 'Bush' that whatever" what I "really"
meant
"One doesn't dig through a garbage can looking for a good piece of sandwich.
Most of the article was garbage, so I composted the whole thing. Of course,
the title of the article set the tone, so I shouldn't have been surprised."
Well indeed! From now on, it'll make it easier to sort through my in
Greg,
Are you looking for anything in particular? I do some small scale
bio-remediation using straw and sawdust/shavings to grow mushrooms, it then
becomes compost for my garden.
The sawdust is something I like better because I can get as much as I want
for free. I need to pay for the straw
This looks like the 'Talk' article referred to by Madsen.
http://www.nationalreview.com/daily/nr080999.html
Andrew Preston
On Thu, 1 May 2003 06:24:52 -0500, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I'm afraid that an apology is in order on my part relative to this
> thread.
>
> The previou
Hi,
Maybe this one is interesting for you,
"Radiator Mess"! Radiator Designs and use.
http://energy.saving.nu/comfort/radmess.shtml
Hakan
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Paul writes:
>Can some one direct me to a definitive answer
>on the transesterification mechanism and in
>particular the role and nature of the catalyst?
>
See
http://jbcs.sbq.org.br/jbcs/1998/vol9_n3/30.pdf
for a pretty complete description of both acid- and
base-catalyzed mechanisms. -K
-
I been trying to collect info on it and it's usage on the small scale, ever
since I read a book "Slovinia" ( I think it was called ) that mentioned it.
Greg H.
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fred,
what type of mushrooms are you using to remediate, and what is it that your
remediating? sorry if i came in kinda late on this one but was just curious.
josh
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From: Frederick E. Finch
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Your statement "Batteries are a toxic reality all in and of themselves" is
inflammatory within the context of your letter, which requests support for
biofuels, but does not address any toxicity issues associated with biofuels.
No technology is without its drawbacks. Even nature itself has a va
>Can some one direct me to a definitive answer on the transesterification
>mechanism and in particular the role and nature of the catalyst?
>
>
>
>--
>Dr Paul van den Bergen
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>"And some run up hill and
Hello Martin,
Thanks for clarifying that. If the best way to store electricity is in
battery systems (of course a solar plant would run only during daylight,
but peak demand is generally in the evenings - not that the local habit of
TV addiction helps..) then I imagine that the main systems will
>One doesn't dig through a garbage can looking for a good piece of sandwich.
>Most of the article was garbage, so I composted the whole thing. Of course,
>the title of the article set the tone, so I shouldn't have been surprised.
Okay, Steve, we now know beyond any doubt or further discussion tha
>Oh, and btw, KEITH .. good to be back!!
You're welcome Curtis, nice yo hear from you again. :-)
Best
Keith
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>Steve Spence: according t
Hello,
It seems that the same is true for charging a battery system, only in this
case you are working against the electric potential of the battery cell,
instead of the mechanical potential of the pressurized system. If a
hydrogen tank is initially empty, it takes more energy per unit to fill i
whatever Keith. It's pointless to debate this stuff. I'm not even going to
try.
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Thank you. I'm honored.
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:53 AM
Sub
On Thu, 1 May 2003, paul van den bergen wrote:
> Can some one direct me to a definitive answer on the transesterification
> mechanism and in particular the role and nature of the catalyst?
Hello,
Here is a good pdf file I found some time ago that covers the base- and
acid- catalyzed hydrolysis
I have been playing with woodchips contaminated with oil and gasoline. The
experiment that I have been working with came from a project that Paul
Stamets has been doing.
See: http://fungi.com/mycotech/mycova.html
So far the strain of oyster mushroom that I have will eat just about
anything.
Hello Sam
Good effort, good for you. A couple of comments...
>Dear friends and fellow plant fuel advocates,
>This is a letter I wrote this morning and edited appropriately for the
>following legislators, as well as the San Jose Mercury News. please take
>five minutes to edit it yourself and send
At 10:23 AM 5/1/2003 +1000, you wrote:
>On Thu, 1 May 2003 09:50 am, Hakan Falk wrote:
> > Dear John,
> >
> > I think we can discuss which type of statistics that is
> > the right one and the truth is that it is no single one that
> > give a complete picture.
>
>Do we all agree that it is too high
>whatever Keith. It's pointless to debate this stuff. I'm not even going to
>try.
It wouldn't be pointless if you actually went so far as to debate it,
but you've never even come close - label and dismiss is all. That's
not debate Steve, you have to do more than just declaim, get it all
wrong
When charging a deep-cycle battery, it does not take any more energy (in watt-
hours) to put in the tenth kilowatt-hour than it did to put in the first
kilowatt-
hour (assuming at capacity somewhat larger than 10 kWh). It may take a higher
voltage (potential difference) to continue the charging
So if a restaurant calls knockwurst "animal guts," you won't eat it?
If one doesn't like the movie trailer, you won't see the movie, even if all
your best friends rave about it?
Personal discretion or choice is a wonderful thing, but that doesn't make
something what you think or would like other
But you err with what you present. There is proof of Graham's shoe in. There
is overburdening proof of most of what he wrote.
But you want to throw the baby out with the bath water?
That's one fine way to keep the masses from learning any truth. Deceptive
and unprincipled, but effective.
Todd S
Superb circlespeak squire!
:-)
Todd Swearingen
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> Well, you admit you don't know anything. And, Steve speaks
but voltage is not energy
--
P=EI
That says it is.
Kirk
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Whe
hahahahahahahaha!!! That's good!!
But seriously though ... you're right ... I do not know too much. But over
the years there is only ONE conclusion that I "think" I can say I
"reasonably" ... "KNOW". They are:
1. All is not what it seems.
2. Bush .. or any other President for that m
Ok, I did my first batch, 10 litres of oil. Followed the directions
and it sepparated like it should, but the glycerin is liquid after 24
hours and there appears to be water droplites between the diesel and
glycerin.
Have I missed something? or is this normal? I have syphoned off the
diesel and am
Sorry to quibble, but voltage is potential difference, which implies a capacity
to
do work but it is not energy. When current is flowing (amps), work is being
done,
and that is energy. Volts x amps = watts. Energy is measured in watts, not
volts.
So, let's consider the power equation, P=E
In my mind .. I just simply look at the "requirements" of an "automobile".
People "expect" it to have maximum leg and trunk room which leaves
little room for the fuel tank and engine. People also "expect" it to
accelerate from "zero to 60 in 5". This high-power requirement... combined
wi
Energy is the ability to do work, while power is the rate at which work is
done.
Power is a time average of energy (energy per unit time).
1 kW is energy
1 kWh is power
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Yes, as the battery is given a higher and higher voltage (while maintaining
a constant current, that's the key) ... yes ... more "energy/power" is
flowing.
If in doubt ... consider this:
1 foot of resistance wire ... takes (for example) 1 amp flowing through it
to make it "red hot".
Change th
In a way, I kinda feel sorry for Steve.
I think the only thing Steve "does wrong" (if you wanna call it that) is
that he does not begin each sentence with "Well, in my opinion . ".
It's probably something he "means" ... but simply neglects to say. In MY
head, I simply add the missing "in my
My problem is that anti war/anti government/anti Christian (not related to
each other, I just threw them in there) posts do bug me. I'll work on that.
In the future I will endeavor to add "IMHO" to the beginning of each post,
if everyone else does as well. If you agree with me, fine, if you don't
There is no power (energy) until
there is current (amps).
--
And there is no power until there is voltage. It is expressed as the product
of quantity of electrons (current) and the electromotive force producing the
current (voltage). But when you say the first unit of c
Wrinkle away Steve. That is yours and everyone's prerogative.
But it would be nice if you intermittantly offered rationale rather than
only wrinkles.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 7:53 PM
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First, my apologies for using "power" and "energy" somewhat interchangeably.
Shifting precision up from common usage to scientific usage.
Steve, I believe you have the units for power and energy reversed.
In the Power Equation (P=EI), P (power) is measured in watts, not watt-hours.
Power - abili
Trying again.
"kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is no power (energy) until
> there is current (amps).
> --
> And there is no power until there is voltage. It is expressed as the
> product of quantity of electrons (current) and the electromotive force
> produci
Steve - I agree with you - Power ( eg: Horsepower ) is force applied over
time and is therefore not "instantaneous". As a matter of fact, the
definition of 1 horsepower is
33000 ft pounds in one minute. There is no way to "measure" horsepower - it
must be calculated from applied torque or forc
I think though, that if the current drops (as the battery charges) ... that
the battery will charge slower and slower.
Curtis
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A watt-hour is a watt-hour.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/911timeline10pg
This guy uses mainstream media to tell the real story, or
at least a more believeable story than the Republican spin
we've been getting.
kris
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> If you asked me, I would say that 'ol GWB not only "knew"
> about th
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.WASHINGTON UPDATE
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On Thu, 1 May 2003 10:55, you wrote:
> On Thu, 1 May 2003 01:15 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Have you considered using 20 foot ISO containers for shelter.
> >
> > I like the fact that containers have their own internal strength
> > independent of any need for a foundation.
> >
> >They are also
Sorry, Looks like I shouldv'e pasted the article with the link.
Steven
DAILY NEWS : GRAINS AND CROPPING
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By Alan Dick
Wednesday, 4 September 2002
A successful biofuel industry based on contracted growing of canola,
grain and sugar cane
Hi,
Maybe this one is interesting for you,
"Radiator Mess"! Radiator Designs and use.
http://energy.saving.nu/comfort/radmess.shtml
Hakan
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that is very close to my heart, go to:
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>Looks like someone has realized something!
>http://theland.farmonline.com.au/news_daily.asp?ag_id=11172
>
>Regards
>Steven
It says you have to be a member. What's it about Steven?
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Fwd from the Biodiesel list, FYI - reply direct, he's not a member here.
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>Subject: [Biodiesel] Canola or Soya Oil
>
>Dear friend we need about 3.000 Tons of the Canola Or Soya oil per
>
Thanks Steve. Sorry, I shouldv'e pasted the article with the link
regards
Steven
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BIODIESEL BULLETIN
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May 1, 2003
.SENATE ENERGY COMMITTEE PASSES CRUCIAL BIODIESEL AMENDMENT
.WASHINGTON UPDATE
.STATE LEGISLATURES PASS BIODIESEL BILLS
.IDAHO SHOWS STRONG BIODIESEL GROWTH
.INTEREST IN BIODIESEL GROWING AMONG INDIANA SCHOOLS
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