I believe the mechanics of the process would introduce a problem with the
oil coating the surface of the material you are attempting to use,
disallowing the water to be absorbed.
I could be wrong, but that's what I think
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Sent: Tu
How about quicklime? (CaO)
Less corrosive than Calcium chloride hydrate.
Kirk
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From: Terry Lohnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:01 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated salt solutions
Christopher
pressure to speed the flow and a plate the water freezes to -- or a "sieve"
Just ideas
Kirk
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From: Terry Lohnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 9:00 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated salt solutions
I
Hello Keith,
Easy, we are not "friends of George", we would actually
suggest something that they had to do now. This would disturb
the new world order and probably qualify us for a vacation
on Cuba instead. LOL
Hakan
At 12:06 PM 6/3/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Hello Hakan
>
>So why don't they give
Hello Keith,
Easy, we are not "friends of George", we would actually
suggest something that they had to do now. This would disturb
the new world order and probably qualify us for a vacation
on Cuba instead. LOL
Hakan
At 12:06 PM 6/3/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Hello Hakan
>
>So why don't they give
Thanks,
I have some silica gel too. I'll try it.
Terry
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Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated salt solutions
Hallo friends,
I think silica-gell and C
Kevin,
I found a salt that may work. You know that stuff you may use to salt your
driveway in the winter, or the pellets in those little closet dehumidifiers you
see at the hardware store? Well, that is made primarily of calcium chloride,
which has the same love for water that lithium bromide
Hello Hakan
So why don't they give all that money to you instead? (And also me?) :-)
regards
Keith
>Keith,
>
>I can promise to cut it in half to 2030, without doing anything,
>it is a sure bet and I cannot understand why they spend money
>suggesting this stuff. Like it or not, the fuel consum
Hello Hakan
So why don't they give all that money to you instead? (And also me?) :-)
regards
Keith
>Keith,
>
>I can promise to cut it in half to 2030, without doing anything,
>it is a sure bet and I cannot understand why they spend money
>suggesting this stuff. Like it or not, the fuel consum
Christopher,
I found a salt that may work. You know that stuff you may use to salt your
driveway in the winter, or the pellets in those little closet dehumidifiers you
see at the hardware store? Well, that is made primarily of calcium chloride,
which has the same love for water that lith
I suppose, but how do you get the ice out? That and oil flows REALLY slowly at
freezing temperatures, making it hard to filter.
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From: kirk
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: [biofuel] Drying using concentrated sa
Hallo friends,
I think silica-gell and CuSO4 (cuprisulphate) can be used to dry used oil.
Those silica-gell and CuSO4 are very higroscopic.
Regard,
Supranto
> This is a shot in the dark -- but-- freezing is a less energy intensive
> way of "distilling" water. Would it work for drying oil?
>
> Kirk
Hi Chris
>It's good to hear from you, Kieth.
:-) Bit erratic these days, sorry...
>I use very little excess in my trials. Using the value from journey to
>forever of 121.52 mL for soy and add 60% excess, we 194.43 mL. I don't
>think our values differ at all. You got it right using experimenta
You mean the art criminal...ehh...I mean artist?
:-)
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From: "Bryan Brah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Off Topic (National ID Card)
> Does anyone see the irony in the name on this card?
>
>
>
> http://www.popsci.com
Keith,
I can promise to cut it in half to 2030, without doing anything,
it is a sure bet and I cannot understand why they spend money
suggesting this stuff. Like it or not, the fuel consumption year
2030 will be cut in half anyway, as a function of price and availability.
The likelihood that it
Keith,
I can promise to cut it in half to 2030, without doing anything,
it is a sure bet and I cannot understand why they spend money
suggesting this stuff. Like it or not, the fuel consumption year
2030 will be cut in half anyway, as a function of price and availability.
The likelihood that it
Only by half?? Dream on!
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-29-06.asp
How to Halve U.S. Transport Emissions by 2050
ARLINGTON, Virginia, May 29, 2003 (ENS) - By using a set of existing
technologies and policies and building on them, it is possible to
reduce U.S. carbon emissions from trans
Only by half?? Dream on!
http://ens-news.com/ens/may2003/2003-05-29-06.asp
How to Halve U.S. Transport Emissions by 2050
ARLINGTON, Virginia, May 29, 2003 (ENS) - By using a set of existing
technologies and policies and building on them, it is possible to
reduce U.S. carbon emissions from trans
This is a shot in the dark -- but-- freezing is a less energy intensive way
of "distilling" water. Would it work for drying oil?
Kirk
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From: Christopher Tan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:34 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel]
>Does anyone see the irony in the name on this card?
>
>
>
>http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,335428-1,00.html
Heh!
But that was 19 years ago... or was it?
Best
Keith
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Hi Mark
>Ironically enough, in Monday's training, the unknown, "poor quality"
>sample is going to be this commercial fuel. Homebrewers testing
>commercial fuel to see if we think it's actually safe to use, if it
>would need to be reprocessed, and otherwise passing judgement on
>it... is all ki
I too am on the beginning edge of making biodiesel. I would be very
interested in this. Have you tried it or is this a thought you've had?
Assume for a moment that it works fine. The cost of biodiesel from WVO is
currently around .60 to .65 cents per gallon, depending on factors. How
much woul
Hi Keith and Mark,
I think I did not express my points clearly in my previous post (sorry for
my English). I am not against home brewing at all. I cannot claim that home
brewers are producing bad fuels, especially in USA.( I have never been in
USA). But making a bad biodiesel is possible if someo
Does anyone see the irony in the name on this card?
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12543,335428-1,00.html
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I am a student working on a research project on "BioDiesel Fuels"
project at the IIT Kanpur, India. I need a little help from you.
I want to know the viscosity, surface tension , solubility and
density values for Monoglycerides, Diglycerides and Triglycerides at
the operating temperature of our b
It's good to hear from you, Kieth.
I use very little excess in my trials. Using the value from journey to
forever of 121.52 mL for soy and add 60% excess, we 194.43 mL. I don't
think our values differ at all. You got it right using experimentally
derived amout of excess. I just went around the
James:
50% reduction for Canola SVO, compared to PREMIUM Canadian diesel fuel.
About the same as new soy biodiesel, and Canola WVO
VW Jetta.
"Renewable Oil Fuels and Diesel Engines as Components of Sustainable
System Design" M.Sc. thesis
E. Beggs (c'est moi)
See: Figure 4.4, Page 128
http:
Hello Terry,
I am also new to the group. I have no idea how much those salts cost. If
they will cost less than the energy needed to dry used oil, I guess that's
an idea worth trying.
Do you have any information regarding their disposal? or, will they just be
reheated to remove the water?
Hello Chris
18-19% stoichiometric quantity for soy and corn? That's 6-7% more
than other estimates, and would mean that none of us is using
sufficient methanol excess - which we are doing, judging from the
results and the tests we subject the product to. We wouldn't be
getting near completion
Hello James
>I'm trying to find out if there is any definitive info on
>particulate reductions
>resulting from the use of 100% SVO. I've looked quite hard and so far don't
>have a conclusion.
The ACREVO study?
http://www.nf-2000.org/secure/Fair/F484.htm
>I understand that there is now diesel e
Obviously you and I see it clearly. So why are most of the population like
the "coppertops" in Matrix?
It was obvious to me decades ago that you have to drop out if you wish to
terminate slave status. Then I became a Christian and read "Come out of her
my children".
Struck a real chord with me. BT
Hello,
This is my first submission, and I'm just getting started in
biodiesel, but have a strong industry and chemicals background. Has
anyone ever used concentrated salt solutions (like Lithium Bromide
or Lithium Chloride) to dry WVO or finished biodiesel? I've done
quite a bit of looking w
Hello,
This is my first submission, and I'm just getting started in
biodiesel, but have a strong industry and chemicals background. Has
anyone ever used concentrated salt solutions (like Lithium Bromide
or Lithium Chloride) to dry WVO or finished biodiesel? I've done
quite a bit of looking w
Well, you've gotta remember, a slave is a valuable manufacturing piece of
equipment ... similar to a wave soldering machine, robot automobile welder,
or weaving loom. Doctoring costs simply represent a "repair cost" to that
piece of equipment. Unless of course, the "repair" ..oops .. I mean
do
I'm trying to find out if there is any definitive info on particulate
reductions
resulting from the use of 100% SVO. I've looked quite hard and so far don't
have a conclusion. I understand that there is now diesel exhaust technology
that removes particulates completely from petrodiesel exhaus
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