Re: [biofuels-biz] the politics of energy solutions

2003-07-20 Thread murdoch
I agree there are good and sincere folks on either side of the fence - however, from experience I know that many in the senior management of the large environmental groups have compromised with the big energy interests. Very interesting post. Another example of this, we fans of Battery EVs

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: A Consultative Workshop of Scientific Strategies for Production of Non-edible Oils for Biofuels

2003-07-20 Thread Keith Addison
dear all, enclosed is the information about a workshop on biofuels. Looking forward to hearing from you Regards Sunitha SuTRA Sustainable Transformation of Rural Areas Dept of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore 560 012 India Tel:

[biofuels-biz] Separation of water from WVO

2003-07-20 Thread lohnestd
Hello all, This subject is also posted on [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I thought I'd post it here too. Any feedback would be appreciated. This problem is something I noticed right away when I started reading into how biodiesel is made, and the pitfalls associated with the process (i.e making

[biofuels-biz] Re: Ferndale Washington Biodiesel Plant

2003-07-20 Thread lohnestd
Hello all, I live in Bellingham, Washington which is right down the road from Ferndale. It kind of surprised me that there was a larger scale processing plant under construction right under my nose. I'll see what I can find out. My wife works for the city, and the ecology people might know

Re: [biofuels-biz] Separation of water from WVO

2003-07-20 Thread Tilapia
Terry- Would the CaCl salt be added as a crystal, or as a brine? What proportions are needed? Where do you think the salt ends up?-in the aqueous layer, or in between? Have you made biodiesel from the resulting separated oil layer? Did the process change any from that made from unsalted

[biofuels-biz] Re: Ferndale Washington Biodiesel Plant

2003-07-20 Thread Thor Skov
Hi Ed, Never did find out the name of the company, although there is a Canadian named Dupie who's in charge of sales and marketing (I believe). Last I had heard they were planning to be up and running in April, but still had some things to sort out. We really need some locally produced BD in

[biofuel] What renderers do with WVO (was dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread craig reece
There was a case last year in Sonoma County in California where a renderer was fined for dumping WVO into storm drains or the city sewer - leading many in the local biodiesel and WVO/SVO community to believe that they make most of their $ at the front end from the fees they get paid by the

Re: [biofuel]was: dewatering WVO now regional WVO processing facility

2003-07-20 Thread Mark
Hello all, The problems associated with small scale use of WVO and it's inconsistant quality may be mitigated by a model I have been considering. I work for a Natural Foods company that handles a good deal of vegie oils. I have all the equipment necessesary to filter and de-water WVO. Our

RE: [biofuel] What renderers do with WVO (was dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread Christopher Tan
Thanks Todd, Craig and Keith =-Original Message- =From: craig reece [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 12:58 PM =To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com =Subject: [biofuel] What renderers do with WVO (was dewatering WVO = = = = =There was a case last year in Sonoma County in

Re: [biofuel] Could this be true???????

2003-07-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Conspiracies are a matter of fact, present as well as past. Hey yourself, Todd. :-) Read it again: Just more conspiracism is all - so what, but the trouble with conspiracists is that they're so good at obscuring the real conspiracies, and, indeed, falling for them, all too

[biofuel] swithcgrass and hemp

2003-07-20 Thread belleve777
What an eye opener, we have the technology to produce biofuel and it's being produced today in the USA, why isn't this front page news? What a weird notion to protect our health and environment at the same time, to use farmland without gov't subsidy and poor soil land where nothing will

Re: [biofuel]was: dewatering WVO now regional WVO processing facility

2003-07-20 Thread Brent S
Great idea, but it would only work where there are enough people making diesel to justify the cost and time. These people would also not want to dewater and filter their own oil. Where I live, I am the only one I know that has even attempted to make diesel. In a metro area there might be more

Re: [biofuel]: regional WVO processing facility

2003-07-20 Thread Ken Provost
on 7/19/03 10:03 PM, Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I work for a Natural Foods company that handles a good deal of vegie oils. I have all the equipment necessesary to filter and de-water WVO. Is there any demand for a regional, most likely co-op, WVO processing facility?

[biofuel] page for following news on Nantucket Sound Wind Farm Proposal

2003-07-20 Thread murdoch
http://www.capecodonline.com/special/windfarm/ There was a story on July 13, on GE's interest in this (as proposed maker and installer of the turbines, if I read it correctly) but it doesn't seem to be available online, yet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Or into the drains and landfillsin a big way!! Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Saturday, July 19, 2003, at 09:55 PM, Appal Energy wrote: In the United States WVO primarily goes towards animal feed as an energy quotient, the cosmetics industry, the oleo-chemicals industry in

Re: [biofuel] Re: caches of filtered WVO - was Re: Digest Number 1657

2003-07-20 Thread James Slayden
hrmm, it seems to me that Jerry wants one to lead him to water .. Well Jerry, here is the scoop: search, search, search. There are really no BIG caches of WVO to be had, unless you know a chip, taco shell, or other fried food producer. Most often they will have a contract with a renderer,

[biofuel] Fwd: A Consultative Workshop of Scientific Strategies for Production of Non-edible Oils for Biofuels

2003-07-20 Thread Keith Addison
dear all, enclosed is the information about a workshop on biofuels. Looking forward to hearing from you Regards Sunitha SuTRA Sustainable Transformation of Rural Areas Dept of Mechanical Engineering Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore 560 012 India Tel:

[biofuel] New important news

2003-07-20 Thread Robert Mills
Today's CNN It's the year 2003? Cut energy costs now !! January 5, 2001: 11:22 a.m. ET Have your home and heat it too: beat high fuel costs with simple measures NEW YORK (Planetfeedback) - Some people will take the personal approach to this winter's higher natural gas prices and

[biofuel] Re: dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread lohnestd
Hello all, This problem is something I noticed right away when I started reading into how biodiesel is made, and the pitfalls associated with the process (i.e making soap instead of fuel.) As a chemical engineer, I figured there had to be a way to separate the emulsified oil chemically.

[biofuel] organic no till farming

2003-07-20 Thread Michael Ashton
Greetings everyone. Does anyone on list know anything about organic no till farming or of resources, links, etc. apart from Masanobu Fukuoka and Bill Mollison? I live in the south west of British Columbia Canada and would like to experiment and develope a system that would be viable for the

Re: [biofuel] organic no till farming

2003-07-20 Thread Greg and April
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GardeningOrganically for a start, some good people and few familiar faces as well. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Michael Ashton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 17:17 Subject: [biofuel] organic no till

Re: [biofuel] Re: dewatering WVO

2003-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
Terry, Just out of curiosity, how did the 80/20 soy/water become emulsified? Just running the two in a blender would create but a temporary emulsification, although there would always be the thin emulsified interface layer. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: lohnestd [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel]was: dewatering WVO now regional WVO processing facility

2003-07-20 Thread Appal Energy
Mark, If you have equipment that is 80% under utilized, it would be a wise decision to put it into use in an area that would exceed it's production capacity. You may lose some of the equipment's food grade status. But that shouldn't matter from a monetary perspective as long as it's generating

Re: [biofuel] Bush's latest installment in the book of revisionist history...

2003-07-20 Thread MH
Hi Hoagy I don't want to snip this, but see your question near the end about the mainstream media. snip - From War On Truth - The Secret Battle for the American Mind, An Interview with John Stauber, Published in The Sun, March 1999 http://www.mediaisland.org/thewarontruth.html Hi