Re: [biofuel] resubmitting DOE's Tier I? some next steps?

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
At 02:36 18/12/2003, skillshare wrote: >Much as I think that resubmitting the DOE's failed Tier I is a >winnable strategy especially at this point in time (industry quality >control problems at Imperial Western and World Energy this >year, and the obvious need for consumers to have more choice >i

Re: [biofuel] resubmitting DOE's Tier I? some next steps?

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
I followed this discussion a few times during my membership in biofuels discussion groups. Every time the tier "blabla" testing is discussed with a comical seriousness. This instead of realizing that it is a blatant example on corruption and should really be treated as such. It is designed to

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] resubmitting DOE's Tier I? some next steps?

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
I followed this discussion a few times during my membership in biofuels discussion groups. Every time the tier "blabla" testing is discussed with a comical seriousness. This instead of realizing that it is a blatant example on corruption and should really be treated as such. It is designed to

[biofuel] resubmitting DOE's Tier I? some next steps?

2003-12-17 Thread wrench
we should follow up on the things that Dr Tyson says in the (year and a half-old) letter below. We're organizing people in California to work on this issue this winter, and one approach that's interested folks has been to see if the DOE Tier I submission could be salvaged and expanded on for bio

[biofuels-biz] Resubmitting Doe's Tier I data to the EPA? some next steps?

2003-12-17 Thread wrench
we should follow up on the things that Dr Tyson says in the (year and a half-old) letter below. We're organizing people in California to work on this issue this winter, and one approach that's interested folks has been to see if the DOE Tier I submission could be salvaged and expanded on for bio

[Burnveggies] Re: [Biodiesel] Fwd: I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread T. Gray Shaw
You might want to wash that batch again. I'll bet you scared the crap out of that poor little mousie. :) - Gray As for Tier II animal tests: I had a mouse fall into a small pail of BIO and swim around for more than a day. It was a bit tired and wet when extricated. General Health was good

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread desertstallion
Alex, Although, in general, I prefer Diesel engines and either biodiesel or SVO/WVO over ethanol and spark ignition engines, one must admit that in the case of Brazil the best solution over all has probably been ethanol given the huge amounts of sugarcane they had available to them. In your ca

[biofuels-biz] Re: Re Volkwagen

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Keith, Your mail works fine to me, but I am at the moment sleeping on a guard duty schedule. After my latest eye operation two weeks ago and an eye inflammation as side effect. Have to take drops and creams every 5 hours and am not that fast in reading. Your mail arrived about one hour ago

[biofuels-biz] For Hakan

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
(Sorry about this folks, we're having really bad email problems and wouldn't do this if I could find another way. I won't do it again, promise.) Hakan, about four hours ago I sent you an off-list message called "Re Volkwagen", with some news stuff I thought you might be able to use. Did you r

Re: [biofuel] Heating with SVO

2003-12-17 Thread Dan Maker
Keith Addison said: > > MOTHER's Waste Oil Heater: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html > The altfuelfurnace group at Yahoo deals with running furnaces on WVO. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd add to that the wastewatts group at Yahoo. There has been a lot of

[biofuel] methanol recovery for beginners

2003-12-17 Thread Chris Jude
Howdy y'all, I've been lurking about on this list and have a couple questions. I am forming a biodiesel co-op at my university (Appalachian State, NC) and this spring semester I plan to build a processor. I've made several 1L batches using Alex's 2-stage method. They seemed to turn out wel

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread alex
To me the question is - was ethanol the best way for Brazil to solve the fuel problem? The same question can be applied to many discussions on this list. Yes, there are many ways of making the fuel - but why to choose curved line over the straight line? I think we always have to try to approac

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, Last time I communicated with him, he answered on the usual email address and he gave me permission to update and expand the material. As you can see on our web site, we update use it as base information and then add information in form of articles with link to the authors or direct l

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan >Keith, > >Yes, Emil Bedi did a very job and I am trying to update and complement it. Where is he, what is he doing now, do you know? Isn't he also interested in keeping it current and accessible? >I looks like it is dropped on the original CANCEE site, Seems so, the FAE - SZOPK link

Re: [biofuels-biz] Mini-turbine brings 'green power for all'

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
martin.brook wrote: >How can I buy them The company's called Windsave, search for "Windsave" at Google and see what you find. This is one thing you might find: http://scruss.com/blog/archives/31.html We Saw a Chicken ...: WindSave: All Betz Are Off! December 11, 2003 WindSave: All Betz

Re: [biofuels-biz] Mini-turbine brings 'green power for all'

2003-12-17 Thread martin.brook
How can I buy them - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] Mini-turbine brings 'green power for all' > http://www.guardian.co.uk/renewable/Story/0,2763,1091895,00.html > > Mini-turbine bri

[biofuel] Volkswagen's engine program

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
Here is my personal take on the VW diesel symposium and their engine development, Volkswagen symposium unveils diesel strategies. http://energy.saving.nu/biofuels/vwdiesels.shtml One week after the Tokyo Motor Show, with all the hybrids and fuel cell cars. In a diesel symposium, Volkswagen AG

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, Yes, Emil Bedi did a very job and I am trying to update and complement it. I looks like it is dropped on the original CANCEE site, in favor for a sleek, but less informative, web design. Personally I prefer valuable information, I was lucky to get the permission to publish it on our si

[biofuel] Gengas - was Re: Newbie looking for advice

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
Wood gas The Gengas Page -- Fuel gas, produced by the reduction of coal and peat, was used for heating as early as 1840 in Europe, and by 1884 it had been adapted to fuel engines in England. Petroleum shortages during World War II led to widespread gas generator applications in the transporta

[biofuel] Jon Van Gerpen's response about EPA concerns

2003-12-17 Thread skillshare
Been talking about this offlist with Jon Van Gerpen of Iowa State University. I sent him my "Conversation with the EPA Tome". Here's some more info. I actually had brought up with Jim Caldwell "the lowest possible biodiesel viscosity issue" as compared with the lower temps of diesel's viscosity-

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom Leue >A good summary of the situation, but the conclusions are at variance with the >"prevailing wisdom" up to this point. Prevailing wisdom indeed. >I had understood from Keith Addison and >others that they would accept biodiesel as a non-baseline fuel. Apparently we >were wrong. No

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tom Leue >A good summary of the situation, but the conclusions are at variance with the >"prevailing wisdom" up to this point. Prevailing wisdom indeed. >I had understood from Keith Addison and >others that they would accept biodiesel as a non-baseline fuel. Apparently we >were wrong. No

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
>Some comments: > >Keith Addison wrote: > > >>It seems to me that SVO is a better solution then ethanol. > >>Why?- Because it is easy to make and easy to get, license free. > >>One really doesn't have to make a"plant" for it - it is very safe too! > >> > >> > > > >Alex, we need MORE biofuels opti

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 13:01:40 EST >Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd: I called the > EPA today >Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > >A good summary of the situation, but the conclusions are at variance with the >"prevailing wisdom" up to this point. I had understoo

RE: [biofuel] Re: Newbie looking for advice

2003-12-17 Thread Hakan Falk
Mark, The Gengas site is both in Swedish and in English, try this link on how to build, http://www.gengas.nu/byggbes/contents.shtml Hakan At 02:33 17/12/2003, you wrote: >I would love to know more info on the biomass gasifier but the site you >reference in not in English. Know of any other g

[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 12/17/03

2003-12-17 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- December 17, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). ==

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 12/17/03

2003-12-17 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- December 17, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). ==

RE: [biofuel] Re: Newbie looking for advice

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
>I would love to know more info on the biomass gasifier but the site you >reference in not in English. Know of any other good sources? > > > >Mark McElvy http://www.ikweb.com/enuff/public_html/bigtop/bigtop.htm bigtop 50 kilowatt wood pellet gasifier / charcoal maker (Sept 27, 2000) > _ > >

RE: [biofuel] Newbie looking for advice

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
>Has anyone tried heating with an oil or wood fired boiler then pump the hot >water through coils in the tanks for heat. Also you might try using 12v >battery/solar powered pumps and motors for mixing and transfer. > > > >Mark McElvy Often done, often been discussed here, see archives for more in

Re: [biofuel] What's the true story on ethanol?

2003-12-17 Thread Keith Addison
>Keith Addison wrote: > > >>If Rudolf Diesel was able to make an engine which runs on SWO in 1913 I > >>don't see the reason why it can't be done in 2003. > >> > >> > > > >The Elsbett motor ran on SVO as standard, and was the forerunner of > >the modern direct injection diesels. Darren posted this

Re: [biofuels-biz] Fwd:Ê I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread Tilapia
A good summary of the situation, but the conclusions are at variance with the "prevailing wisdom" up to this point. I had understood from Keith Addison and others that they would accept biodiesel as a non-baseline fuel. Apparently we were wrong. I offer the communication of May, 2002 from Dr. T

[biofuels-biz] Re: Fwd: I called the EPA today

2003-12-17 Thread wrench
--- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a small user of off road diesel the term onroad use is the first > thing I see in most the information. This assumes there is a different > criterion for off road use and production. Is this so? Or is the > differ