Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Todd, I have looked at Fuelmeister and would not buy it, but for others it might be an alternative to get started. It is a waste of money, but if you get all the parts and instructions and are insecure with finding the parts and putting them together. I was looking closer to girl Mark's $140

Re: [biofuel] The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq

2004-02-08 Thread murdoch
>most of our hogs and chickens. The cattle spend their adult lives >packed shoulder to shoulder in a space not much bigger than their >bodies, up to their knees in shit, being stuffed with grain and a >constant stream of antibiotics to prevent the disease this sort of >confinement invariably e

[biofuel] Re: OT: Opinions On Faucet Water Filtration Systems?

2004-02-08 Thread kirkmcloren
charcoal filters without silver (and cheap ones are) often become bacterial cultures, they pollute water. I use a reverse osmosis with 3 prefilters. Works well but not cheap. Worth it though. I think the EPA now says over half the municipal water is substandard. Kirk -- In biofuel@yahoog

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Appal Energy
Hakan, Rather than your suggestion, why don't I and others just make the information freely available to anyone with a teaspoon of common sense and let them reap the savings of building their own processors from scratch? Or why not make an outbuilding available for a like minded entremanure to c

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Todd, Chuck talked about general rules of margins and those are quite close to my experiences also. I we talk about fuelmeister as such, it is quite a. other game. I think that you are right, it is no real product development and as a kit, it does not look serious either. It is no real devel

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Appal Energy
Hakan, I don't think that Chuck and I are on the same wavelength at all. I see a system that is largely deficient, over represented and unnecessarily excessively priced. I tend to understand Chuck as not addressing the deficiencies, somewhat aware of the over representations but either unable o

Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread skillshare
Thanks for pointing that washing misinformation out. There's so much bad info on that website. The problem with not washing till the water is clear, is that it's harder to get the biodiesel to go 'clear' as well (if there's still soap left in the biodiesel). Murky biodiesel contains water. P

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mark Thank for this info, but we're not missing the point. The first response in the thread referred to this archive link: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/28752/ Re: [biofuel] Now here's a nice little joke This focuses on the misinformation and how the process has been bent all out

[biofuel] The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq

2004-02-08 Thread Keith Addison
From the February 2004 issue of Harper's Monthly Harpers www.harpers.org The Oil We Eat: Following the food chain back to Iraq By Richard Manning Richard Manning is the author of Against the Grain: How Agriculture Has Hijacked Civilization, to be published this month by North Point Press. T

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Todd, I think that you are not really in conflict with Chuck, it has to do with manufacturing costs, volume, geographic and market segments. If you look at a normal relations, the traditional sustainable pricing looks more or less like this, End User Price Local reseller price = EUP - 30 to

[biofuel] Re: NBB

2004-02-08 Thread murdoch
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 07:56:25 +0900, you wrote: >The NBB's latest Biodiesel Bulletin (February 6, 2004) talks a lot >about the 2004 National Biodiesel Conference & Expo, but I see no >mention of small-producers or small-producers' issues, beyond this: >"It's striking to see so many people of ver

Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread girl_mark_fire
you guys are missing a major point about why peopel are so upset about the FuelMeister. It's the misinformation, and it's the fact that it creates itself a market by misrepresenting the reality of homebrewing and the great supposed difficulty of equipment building. It's not that there was a

[biofuel] Re: Copper reactor vessel

2004-02-08 Thread girl_mark_fire
the materials in galvanizing (ie zinc) are also a catalyst for oxidation just like copper, so stay away from it if possible. mark --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Copper is a catalyst for oxidation of biodiesel, causing a green oxidation of > the metal and an oxidati

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Appal Energy
Chuck, Funny you should mention HP and the lilke. Their marketing strategies are a bit more involved than your oversimplified 3x premise - volume and lost leaders being just a couple. From our experience, it's primarily (not always) the sloppiest and most careless that incorporate 3X to cover the

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Chuck, You are right, but it is also a little bit dependent on business sector. In IT business the production cost (PC) is normally 20 to 25% of the end user price (EUP) and that covers HP. If you look at other products, the PC is around 30 to 35% of EUP. It might be some Businesses that have

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Chuck Cole
Yes, I always wash fuel. It would not go in my car and truck any other way. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel Hello Chuck >Todd,

Re: Fuelmeister was Re: [biofuel] Filtering biodiesel

2004-02-08 Thread Chuck Cole
Well you had better not buy from HP or any number of major firms because my 3 X number has nothing to do with my degree. It has a lot to do with 30 years of high level observation. 3 times they might make it. 2X they do not make it. Now here is my bet. I bet that bio solutions will not make

Re: [biofuel] Copper reactor vessel

2004-02-08 Thread Tilapia
Copper is a catalyst for oxidation of biodiesel, causing a green oxidation of the metal and an oxidation of the fuel. Probably not your best bet. Mild steel is safer, stainless is good. In a message dated 2/7/04 12:43:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > I'm building my own biodiesel

[biofuel] OT: Opinions On Faucet Water Filtration Systems?

2004-02-08 Thread murdoch
Has anyone out there developed any opinions on these things? An example of some web research might be here: http://www.waterfiltercomparisons.com/water_filter_comparison_matrix.cfm I find that the human behaviour element enters into it for me: I like having a faucet-mounted filter for some reas