Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
lol well, yeah, that's what 'staying on message' means for a bunch like this. little more than a gang of technothugs, or thugocrats or something like that. or wait, how about. . . ? -chris b. In a message dated 7/14/05 7:39:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << No, no, no, no, no. It's call

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (preelectronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
chris, there is a definite decline in vw reliability since around the end of the '90s. add to that the fact that vw parts are more expensive than most, it becomes a double whammy. i really loved my old 85 jetta, but boy those parts were expensive. odds are that when i do get me that diesel, it

Re: [Biofuel] Deconstructing the Nuclear Power Myths

2005-07-14 Thread Michael Chajkowski
To any and all who may be interesting in my two bits. As a relatively long time watcher of this list, it has been my experience that the issues raised by the press releases that are sent to this list by the super well read Keith Addison are both important to be published, and appealing in terms of

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Keith Addison
Whoa there Todd! I'm sure it's not double standards, Hakan just changed tracks. It's the same track as the argument over "sacred cows" (false sacred cows), or my saying things like "Fine critters, cockroaches", and so on, the point being that too often in our disparaging comparisons of humans

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronicinjectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread PERRY JONES
I get about 44mpg (US) with my 92 Jetta TD, about 47 with my 98 Jetta TDI, about the same with my 96 Passat TDI and anywhere from 52 to 61 with my 03 Jetta TDI. Manual tranny required for fuel efficiency. But I generally drive for fuel efficiency, within limits (except last summer when I aver

[Biofuel] Re: seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread John Wilson
>Nonsense.What "pays" and what doesn't depends >largely on the manipulated state of that day's market. Hi, I haven't checked into the actual price but I was shocked when told that you can buy canola oil in 20 liter pails for $00.40 Cdn/liter. Furnace oil here is $00.70 cdn a liter. If

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (preelectronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Chris
 >What do you base your criteria on as far as not liking the VW?   Well, right now I drive a 1994 BMW 530i. I'd argue (to the death), that this particular model/year is one of the best looking cars ever made. I'd also have to say the interior is designed wonderful, and, most importantly, dri

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
> it's all about 'staying on message', todd. > the republicans are masters at it. No, no, no, no, no. It's called "lying on cue," not "staying on message." Actually, they don't even seem to need a cue to get fired up. And let's not forget that adage of "picking one's poison." Just that nobody

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Wilson's Iraq Assertions Hold Up Under Fire From Rove Backers. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1103&sid=a8dab8rni_Do&refer=us July 14 (Bloomberg) -- Two-year old assertions by former ambassador Joseph Wilson regarding Iraq and uranium, which lie at the heart of the controversy over

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
it's all about 'staying on message', todd.  the republicans are masters at it.   -chris -Original Message-From: Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:12:46 -0400Subject: Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points Where are the deb

[Biofuel] It's Cultural Imperialism, Bitch (was: Bitch was: It's. . . .)

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
yes, mr. brodie was doing what has so often been done in the past.  the brits did a marvelous job of it in india, and cortes in mejico was no slouch either.  but as you all have so rightly pointed out, this group seems too well-knit, sharp-minded and keen-eyed.  discontent and divisiveness would ha

Re: [Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Where are the debunkings of each and everyone of these "talking points?' And what is it about the facts that the RNC is so scared about that they have to coach their minions on what to say, when and to whom? The old adage "I think, therefore I don't vote Republican" certainly comes to mind at

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
a diesel should conservatively get 350k.  it wouldn't surprise me if the japanese ones did a little better.  you should be able to count on 500k or more from a mercedes diesel.   -chris -Original Message-From: Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgS

[Biofuel] the RNC's karl rove talking points

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz li

Re: "Bitch" was Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Yup, You're right Kim. It was Jill Mello who applied the "talk show chatter" double standard. Sorry. Just don't have 1,000% retention or time to reflect completely on the whinings of others when there are hundreds of things left undone at every day's end. As to Call Me Bitch? Worthwhile read

"Bitch" was Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Garth & Kim Travis
Greetings, But I don't think it was Kim who had anything to say, I do believe it was Jill, but I could be mistaken. However, we may have another Kim that I am not aware of. A friend of mine wrote the following poem and I think it might be appropriate here. CALL ME BITCH by Clara Kern I he

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
For what it's worth, these are the words that Master Brodie used relative to my acknowledging that someone was bitching (complaining) about something. >> "I notice that he uses words like 'bitch' when in the context >>of corresponding with a woman, which in other circles would >> border on inti

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Busyditch
 Chris What do you base your criteria on as far as not liking the VW? They have a great ride compared to the Japanese, very stable at cruising speeds (70-80) and you just cant beat 50 MPG, let alone the 40 I get just driving around town. I love my '00 Golf TDi and hope to do a Greasel conver

Re: [Biofuel] Hydrometer

2005-07-14 Thread Bruno M.
Hal, I'm afraid you gonna need an other one. :-// Battery acid is a mix of water and Sulferic Acid; Water has a specific gravity of 1, 00 kg/L ( at 4°C) Pure Sulferic Acid is about 1.9 kg/L So, your battery hydrometer shall have readings somewere between 1.0 and 2 kg/L and your Biofuel will

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, I am sorry if I am bitching about this, but I have not seen anything that indicates that Todd called anyone a bitch. Here in Spain they will maybe say "you are a son of a bitch", but at the same time clarify "with no offense to your mother". To be or not to be a bitch is the question.

Re: [Biofuel] It's imperialism, stupid

2005-07-14 Thread Keith Addison
Thanks for the encouragement, Mike. Kieth, Earlier, you mentioned how companies like Monsanto try to infiltrate groups like ours. In addition I'm sure that there are many emotionally driven and misguided individuals like Tim who are acting on their own. Yes, an endless trickle, Chinese wat

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bob RE: "Harvest equipment = a scythe." I grew up near Pennsylvania Dutch country, and I'll always remember driving through the areas farmed by the Amish, which as many of you may already know, eschew engine driven equipment. Unless they hire someone to do fieldwork, they do the wor

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronicinjectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Nancy Canning
 I was getting 48mpg on the 71 vw rabbit, main support "T" rusted on it and wasn't worth replacing, as a 16 year old had hit the left front fender.  My 70 gets 45mpg, I put a little wider tire on it for traction in the winter and that reduced milage. - Original Message - From:

RE: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread
I was just at "Pick-N-Pull" auto wreckers last weekend and saw at least 4 Diesel Rabbits. (California) I think they get around $100 for a complete engine, and another $50 for the trany. If you watch they have 50% off days every few months. I don't check the mileage, but if they follow my Rabbits

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
> What kind of mileage do those old (70s) engines get? Depending upon the condition, 40-50 mpg. A rebuild or seldom used engine would be at the top end. Anything under 40 mpg should have the top end looked at to see where the compression is being lost. Todd Swearingen Chris wrote: What kind

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injectorcontrol)

2005-07-14 Thread Chris
 What kind of mileage do those old (70s) engines get? I was thinking about selling my car and getting a new golf TDI, maybe a '00 or something slightly older. I'm not sure. I wish there were more options as far as diesels go. I must admit I'm not a big VW fan. I really wish I could import s

[Biofuel] Recipes for Treason

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
Saving Karl Rove Paul Waldman July 14, 2005 http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050714/saving_karl_rove.php /Paul Waldman is a senior fellow with / /Media Matters for America/ <http://mediamatters.org/> /and a senior contributor to/ The Gadflyer <http://gad

[Biofuel] MG diesel conversion Was:Re: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel production and motorcycles

2005-07-14 Thread John Estill
--- bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Redler wrote: > > Bob, > > I don't disagree that there is an abundance of > waste vegetable oil out there. General question ->Is it really waste when the used oil is puchased (in larger metro areas) and then sold to be used in pet/animal food?

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injector control)

2005-07-14 Thread Nancy Canning
I have a great oldie but goodie one off a 71 rabbit, been keeping it for a spare(currently driving a 70) but it's not out of the car. It runs great though, it would be easy to hook a battery up and start it up for you, so you could see for yourself. - Original Message - From: "David L W

[Biofuel] Hydrometer

2005-07-14 Thread Hal Burch
I've made a couple of batches of biodiesel and want to test its specific gravity. I've found a hydrometer that test a battery to see if it is holding a charge at TSC here in Bloomington, IL. Can I use this hydrometer to test the biodiesel or do I need one specificially for biodiesel? -hal

Re: [Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injector control)

2005-07-14 Thread Mike Weaver
Ebay, or google rebuilt diesel... David L Wood wrote: how about a 1981 VW already removed from vehicle. I had to scrap the car. David ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustai

[Biofuel] Cross Posted: Engine Compression Ratio Discussion.....Diesel Conversions

2005-07-14 Thread Michael Redler
I was half joking when I posted this. I'm wondering if there is any interest in discussing this here.   Maybe it's already been done. Stranger things have happened.   MikeMichael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:52:07 -0700 (PDT)From: Michael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Appal Energy
> I'm curious what list members might think of the ethics/morality > of using animal power, where practical, to grow and harvest crops. Ancient proverb: "If you don't work, you don't eat." Carry that proverb one step further: "If you don't work, you get eaten." Livestock play as essential a r

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Garth & Kim Travis
Greetings, While I do not use animal power on my farm, I do use my scythe almost daily.  I cut grass for my rabbits.  I hope in the future to be harvesting grains with it.  The best part of the scythe is the peace and quiet.  I do use my tractor when I need to, but then I have to wear ear protect

Fwd: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread RobertCVA
RE:   "Harvest equipment = a scythe."   I grew up near Pennsylvania Dutch country, and I'll always remember driving through the areas farmed by the Amish, which as many of you may already know, eschew engine driven equipment.  Unless they hire someone to do fieldwork, they do the work general

Re: [Biofuel] Limiting coffee breaks. was: Deconstructing theNuclear Power Myths

2005-07-14 Thread capt3d
if what you're referring to is debunking the allegation that iraq had sought to purchase said material from niger, that would have been her husband, ambassador wilson. :) btw, i looked at those links you provided re veggie nutrition. i don't see any contradiction with what was being posted he

RE: [Biofuel] Colostrum

2005-07-14 Thread Jules Veres
We all take Colostrum supplement in our family to strengthen our immune system. It is in a spray format, it works wonders, especially i the cold season. It is bovine too. Jules From: "Ryan Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Subject: [Biofuel] Colostrum Date:

[Biofuel] Anybody have a vw engine (pre electronic injector control)

2005-07-14 Thread David L Wood
how about a 1981 VW already removed from vehicle. I had to scrap the car. David ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://jour

Re: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike, John John, There is an article from Homepower magazine that gives detailed information on biodiesel production which includes oil extraction. I don't have enough experience to determine it's validity. But it seems to indicate that there is "table top" equipment available for ext

Re: [Biofuel] seeds on the brain - small scale diesel

2005-07-14 Thread Keith Addison
on 7/13/05 4:20 PM, John Wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Mike, > Extracting the oil from seed requires a process that is quite > expensive. Harvest equipment you could probably contract out > but unless you are somewhere where you can sell the cake or > have livestock to feed the cake

Re: [Biofuel] Workers Rights

2005-07-14 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Pennsylvania is the same way - an "at will" state. It means that the employer doesn't need a reason or excuse to fire someone, but it also means that employees can quit with a reason or excuse too (there is some power in this). I believe that the primary reason this situation exists is that t