From the 16th century Japan (and long before) the Japanese
establishment had looked on the world as a battleground of aggressive
empires,
Like Britton, France, Spain, and Portugal you mean. Chris.
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Hi Clark,
Welcome if this is your first post. We all appreciate a sense of humor. However, there is at least one perhaps more than one Viet Nam vets here, possible from both sides. Napalm jokes probably are not too funny. But, heck how would you know that. Welcome, learn and enjoy the dialog.
Hi Busy,
That´s what I was afraid of. I have a feeling BioD is out, definitely the glycerine by-product as a fuel. Maybe 95% ethanol.
Thanks,
Tom Irwin
From: Busyditch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:52:39 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New
Hi all,
I passed by the local used everything store and saw an old style blowtorch.
Pressure-type, you have to pump it up? There's a tray right under the
burner that you fill with alcohol first, light the alcohol to
pre-heat the burner unit, then just before the alcohol flame goes
out,
*Part* of the German command was looking for a way out - look what
happened to Rommel. Didn't change the war much.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*Part* of the Japanese government was trying to find a way to surrender,
before the atom bombs.
Part of the U.S. Navy command held the view that no
I always wash *and* neutralize the leftover lye - but then I'm pretty
paranoid. Some of the gurus I met at Piedmont don't, others swear you
have to.
the skapegoat wrote:
The JTF website strongly recommends washing and the Josh Tickell book
seems to suggest it isn't necessary and possibly
"I grow a little weary of revisionist history."
Yes. Those pesky researchers and their new discoveries. Why can't we just keep history the way "the victors" wrote it.
"Hirohito, Hitler, and even our ally Stalin were noton the humanitarian side of the leger."
So this is where I (and perhaps
Hi all and Keith,
You know I only examined it a minute or two so I can't tell what type it is. But if it has the possibility of using BioD it was so cheap I'll go buy it and play with it some.
Many thanks,
Tom Irwin
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
Roger Billings had a company in Utah in the 1980s that ran cars
on hydrogen. He ran his first car on hydrogen in the 1960s. After
dropping the project for a while, he is at it again. His website is
http://www.hydrogennow.org/index.html
I haven't heard a word about him in the press, just the
I was reading just yesterday about using white rot fungus in the form of mushrooms of the common button type as selective for lignin and leaving the cellulose and hemicellulose alone as part of a pulping scheme. The cellulose and maybe the hemicellulose can then be fermented to ethanol. (Another
I think Bush is trying to confuse the issue. The terrorists(?) and would-be terrorists don't hate our way of life but they do hate the influence that big American multinationals exert over their lives. As far they (terrorists and would-be terrorists) are concerned, American multinationals
"*Part* of the German command was looking for a way out - look what happened to Rommel. Didn't change the war much."
There are alot of "what if's" that can be discussed to exhaustion. It may seem like a waste of time. However, I'd prefer to do that than focus entirely on the outcome and say
Absolutely.
By the way, have you ever noticed how the issues can be confused when a culture insists on categorizing and labeling every political dogma on earth, and then force you to subscribe to one?
democrat, republican, liberal, neocon, communist, ultra(right, left, orthodox, etc.),
08-08-05 on Ethanol
It takes approximately the same energy to produce ethanol, as you get out of
using ethanol. There are quibbles about how much gain or loss, but the
major use of energy, is from the distillation process to make ethanol
usable. The distillation process is the major loss of
Howdy Ken,
Ken Gotberg wrote:
I was reading just yesterday about using white rot fungus in the form of
mushrooms of the common button type as selective for lignin and leaving
the cellulose and hemicellulose alone as part of a pulping scheme. The
cellulose and maybe the hemicellulose can then
Hi D Giorchino
The mess you have made can be a new dicovery of solid biofuel .
jelly solid ethanol has good market as the future biofuel for rural
areas as identified by UN.
Try to acess about the possbility of mixing your mess with
ethanol jelly fuel.Thus the big problem of
RE: post excerpted below.
Some hard questions, and painful for those of us in the US who are
conflicted about the good and bad our country, or its citizens, have done in and
to the world, and in this country itself. [As I write this, I have
in my wallet a $20 bill, with the picture of
Bob wrote: "re: 'Dysentery, starvation(due to ten years of sanctions) andwar in Iraq.', specifically concerning the sanctions."
Iraqi Sanctions and American Intentions: Blameless Carnage? by James Bovard
Iraqi Sanctions and American Intentions: Blameless Carnage? by James BovardPresident Bushs
Greetings Ken,
I'm certainly interested in seeing that thesis. It would be unusual for a fungus to get its only form of energy from lignin. It would be especially unusual for a fungus not to consume cellulose and hemicelluose. Hot stuff for those poor souls like myself, interested in
Click
here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
FYI. No mention of biodiesel to augment supplies.
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More on Roundup and Monsanto:
Drugs war in Columbia - the true costThe true cost of the USs so-called drugs war in Columbia (see Environment Health News 16 p13) is mounting. There have now been 4,000 human and 178,000 animal reported cases of serious skin, eye, respiratory and digestive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because God Shed His Grace on
[We], as one of our anthems says? Uh, I have a hard time believing
that. With great power goes great responsibility. Interesting times ahead.
As far as God shed his grace, I've often wondered if those words
represent an invocation,
Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
08-08-05 on Ethanol
It takes approximately the same energy to produce ethanol, as you
get out of using ethanol. There are quibbles about how much gain or
loss, but the major use of energy, is from the distillation process
to make ethanol usable. The
Please, I have not heard of thisuse
of MoS2before.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From:
Ken Gotberg
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:07
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from wood
using mushrooms
I
was reading just
The European Union head office
on Monday cleared a form of genetically modified corn made by American
biotechnology company Monsanto Co. for use in animal
feed.
http://www.kticam.com/news/agricultural/index.cfm?id=11698
Greg H.
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I perceive it as a simple request.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:00
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hiroshima and Nagasaki: Worst terror attacks in
history
As far as God shed his
Move over, Jersey tomatoes.
Some farmers are producing a new crop: energy.
http://www.kticam.com/news/agricultural/index.cfm?id=11695
Greg H.
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I don't think that you are looking at the picture in the same light as the
planners were.
Actually greg, we haven't been talking about what was in the minds of the
planners. The subject has been the wholly abitrary statements
Monsanto is a prime player in predatory, monopolistic practices, trying
to pass laws to lock the little guy out. Check out
http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=343. If Monsanto has its way, we will
have to pay royalties to do anything with seeds, including growing
plants to produce biofuels.
Greetings,
I will agree that there are many factors that were not made public at the
time of the bombing that did allow the myths to grow. I wonder though, how
can any nation call themselves moral and strong when they do not want their
people to know what has been done in their name? If the
Yes Monsanto and others have used absolutely dispicable tactics against some
U.S. and Canadian farmers
who found some of their gm plants on their land. I also understand that they
just purchased the largest seed coumpany in the world. Name escapes me right
now but that particular seed co.
tom,
I grow a little weary of revisionist history.
this is precisely why this thread started in the first place. there are
those of us who are weary of the revisionist official history woven almost
entrely
of whole cloth to justify the first use (and, incidentally, first use) of the
atomic
Hello,
I found this site today while researching SVO/WVO:
Diesel Secret Energy or DSE
http://www.dieselsecret.com/
They want US$40 for their 'kit' or US$8 for a 22 floz bottle (to treat 88 gallons)
They claim to be able to run SVO/WVO without car mods, by filtering and using their proprietary
Hi all im a newcomber to making biodiesel and will be making my first batch
soon but need some help in washing the diesel
the rest i got from a friend
thanx
Kobus S.A.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Weaver
Sent: Monday, August 08,
I read that. Diesel will only help if combined w/ high mileage cars,
hybrid and bio. To go to diesel so Americans can get 22 mpg in their
SUVs is pretty silly.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Click here: Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
I just watched a movie called The Yes Men and was shocked at how much
they were able to infiltrate the WTO and even more shocked to see the
scene at the end of the film of a member of my own country's parliament
quoting some of thier disinformation which is designed to combat the
unhealthy
Welcome Kobus
Hi all im a newcomber to making biodiesel and will be making my
first batch soon but need some help in washing the diesel
See:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bubblewash.html
Washing:
Why bother?
Which way is best?
Mist-washing
Bubble washing
Stir washing
Settling
doug,
*Part* of the Japanese government was trying to find a way to surrender,
before the atom bombs.
you've been misinformed. this is a misrepresentation of the facts. it was
hirohito himself, quite on his own, that asked the soviets to mediate a peace.
later, the government junta voted
Hiroshima Survivor Recalls the Day the Atomic Bomb Was Dropped
http://www.alternate-energy.net/hiroshima05.html
Get your daily alternative energy news
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid
news resources forums
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tomorrow-energy
Favorite Bush quote: The American way of life is not negotiable. The
rest of the world may prove him wrong on that one...
robert luis rabello wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because God Shed His Grace on [We], as one of our anthems says?
Uh, I have a hard time believing that. With great
Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of
that crap. Anyone know how to render it safe before disposal?
Also, does anyone have any ideas on using concentrated vinegar to
control weeds?
I had no idea it was so deadly.
-Mike
Michael Redler wrote:
More on Roundup
Burpee?
Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
Yes Monsanto and others have used absolutely dispicable tactics against some
U.S. and Canadian farmers
who found some of their gm plants on their land. I also understand that they
just purchased the largest seed coumpany in the world. Name escapes me right
Burpee?
Seminis.
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg44318.html
[Biofuel] Monsanto buys Seminis
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg46363.html
[Biofuel] Monsanto versus Farmers
Best
Keith
Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
Yes Monsanto and others
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Burpee?
Seminis.
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg44318.html
[Biofuel] Monsanto buys Seminis
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg46363.html
[Biofuel] Monsanto versus Farmers
Best
Keith
Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
Derick,
Still, treat a small sample with concentrated sufuric or phosphoric acid
and observe.
Todd Swearingen
DERICK GIORCHINO wrote:
Thanks for the response. I feel that I may not have explained that there
isn't a layer it's almost a solid mass. It is about 95 deg f outside and if
I turn
Sorry Mike.
I can't help you decide what to do with it. However, I remember threads on this list that talk about very effective, natural solutions in the garden.
Does anyone remember?
Mike
Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get rid of a gallon of
Hi All,
Let me thank everyone involved for the information on these companies. If you think this is doing little good think again. I used the material here with a bit of filtering to teach my Environmental Science class today. The more folks who get the word out the fewer customers Monsanto
Hi Mike,
If you´re in the U.S. you can drop it off at your local household hazardous waste collection site. Call and see how much they will accept. You might have to transfer it into four 1 liter containers so you don´t have to pay for disposal. They usually take this stuff to a cement kiln
Greetings,
Concentrated vinegar, sprayed on a hot sunny day will kill post emergent
weeds, if it does not rain within the next few days. It will also kill any
earthworms it comes in contact with. If used too much, it will also affect
the ph of your soil and harm some of the bacteria, but the
Right-on Tom!
This is the kind of encouragementthat I REALLY like to see.
"But, as men cannot engender new forces, but only unite and direct existing ones, they have no other means of preserving themselves than the formation, by aggregation, of a sum of forces great enough to overcome the
I know someone who developed a way to remove alcohol during
fermentation, which would greatly cut the cost of making ethanol.
I am trying to find people to link up with to replicate the process
because he has dropped it. I did a search for remove alcohol
during fermentation on your web site
robert,
there is a lot of myth swirling around this issue. the sanctions did result
in severe hardships for the people of iraq. however, once the oil for food
program got under way, things really started to turn around. by the time
'shock
and awe' started, the UN-administered program had
no doubt, eventually, one of their gmo's will have the 'accidental' side
effect of respiring a specific isotope of oxygen, thus enabling monsanto to
hold
patent rights on any unit of atmosphere in which this isotope is found. . . .
-chris b.
In a message dated 8/8/05 12:35:20 PM, [EMAIL
Hi folks,
I hope everyone is reading all the attachments to articles on this topic. I found theone in the Weekly Standard to be very credible. Thanks Greg and April for thisinformation. Perhaps that´s my own personal bias. How would you attack this Chris B. and Hakan? More government
Hi All,
Aside from the ongoing debate, here is a practical question. Since turkeys,(the edible kind) are relatively rare where I live, I thought they might be a more profitable bird to raise than chickens. I still plan on raising muscovy ducks since they seem relatively low maintenence. How
Greetings,
Depending on the breed, turkeys can be really stupid. They will starve to
death standing in a pile of food. Extremely careful research is called for
or you will be hand feeding your babies every couple of hours. It is not
fun. Muscovy ducks are fun and taste real good.
Bright
on 8/8/05 8:58 AM, Michael at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
E-Mail me at address on my card when you are interested in
contributing your design and other talents.
See http://RecoveryByDiscovery.com/Ethanol.htm
Howzabout I just reply here in front of everybody and you can
ignore me if you
Dear All-
Does anyone out there have a creative off the shelf idea for a total condenser
(methanol recovery)? I'm thinking about building an air-cooled type, but I
was wondering if anyone had a better solution?
Also, where are some other sources to get methanol? I have a local racing
fuel
Vinegar seems to work pretty good on dandelions, not
much effect on other weeds. I use the large jug (four
liters) size from the discount grocery store, plain
white vinegar.
Joe
--- Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arrgg. Why did you have send that? Now I have get
rid of a gallon of
I found the one in the Weekly Standard to be very credible.
No references or no book in the offing or in print citing reference one
to back their article, with the authors being party and parcel to
numerous positions contrary to common, economic and environmental sense,
stubborn to the
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