Re: [Biofuel] Soda Ash

2005-11-10 Thread bob allen
Howdy Tom, the answer is no. You want KOH or Potassium Hydroxide or caustic potash- different names for the same thing. soda ash is sodium carbonate and it won't work as a catalyst. Thomas Kelly wrote: > Hello, > Is soda ash the same as KOH? > If so, which would I prefer to use, Den

Re: [Biofuel] Soda Ash

2005-11-10 Thread doug
Webster's, www.m-w.com defines as follows; soda ash One entry found for *soda ash*. Main Entry: *soda ash* Function: /noun/ *:* commercial anhydrous sodium carbonate doug swanson Thomas Kelly wrote: > Hello, > Is soda ash the same as KOH? > If so, which would I prefe

[Biofuel] Soda Ash

2005-11-10 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hello, Is soda ash the same as KOH? If so, which would I prefer to use, Dense Soda Ash or Light Soda Ash ? Dense soda ash is about $20/50lbs Light soda ash is about $25/50lbs I have obtained 85% Phosphoric Acid for separating the glycerine I produce. I would l

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I learn new things every day. I didn't know people were actually running unheated veggie oil. I've played around with veggie oil systems, but everyone who has any experience running them has told me, if the veggie oil isn't at least 160F, don't even think about throwing the transfer switch, and

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I don't get why you asked about biodiesel then? On 11/10/05, Randy Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No I don't want to make Biodiesel or soaps what I make is a polymer grease > for lubrication of machinery that doesn't wash out or wear out as typical > grease using lithium soap > > -Origina

Re: [Biofuel] Plastic Welding

2005-11-10 Thread Joe Street
Plastic welders are not cheap if you are talking about the type I have used. It is basically a heat gun with a metal anvil at the end which has holes to direct streams of heated air toward the weld area and also to heat the welding rod (plastic rod of course). I have used them for welding po

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread David Miller
Kenji James Fuse wrote: >< >Pressure causes heat, in a low compression engine there is not enough heat >to make the fuel spontaniousely combust. If you raise the compression >ratio >you create more pressure. That added pressure creates more heat. That heat >causes fuel with a lower OCTANE RATING

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Shake Test

2005-11-10 Thread Joe Street
Hi Chuck; Sounds like you are not getting a complete reaction in the first place. A very distinct boundary between the glycerine and the 'fuel' above is not in itself an indication that everything is well. I found that to get a complete reaction takes the right temperature and very good mixi

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method - Vinegar instead of H3PO4?

2005-11-10 Thread francisco j burgos
Dear Dan: im may be possible... but as long you have 100% acetic acid (vinegar). Water on regular vinegar will deviate to the left the reaction due to LeChatelier-Braun principle. Regards, F. - Original Message - From: "Dan Sharp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 09,

[Biofuel] Fwd: Discovery series seeking new homesteaders

2005-11-10 Thread Keith Addison
If interest to anyone? Wonder why he thinks we're in LA... - Keith >Subject: Discovery series seeking new homesteaders >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:09:56 - >From: "James Christiemiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Dear Keith and Midori, > >Ricochet F

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method - Vinegar instead of H3PO4?

2005-11-10 Thread fox mulder
--- Dan Sharp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it possible to use vinegar instead of H3PO4 in > the foolproof method? A chemist friend says it > should theoretically work, but I > don't know if there's some other reason for it that > he's not thinking of. I give much more credibility > to yo

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Randy Brown
I know if the motor oil is pre heated it thins and burns with atomization so it problemly will work as the heated air mixing with the oil will oxidize and explode. if its a complete burn it should not smoke he may have to use a afterburner like a catalytic converter. I have been playing usin

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kenji >< >Pressure causes heat, in a low compression engine there is not enough heat >to make the fuel spontaniousely combust. If you raise the compression >ratio >you create more pressure. That added pressure creates more heat. That heat >causes fuel with a lower OCTANE RATING to spontanio

Re: [Biofuel] Foolproof Method - Vinegar instead of H3PO4?

2005-11-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Francisco, Dan >Dear Dan: >im may be possible... but as long you have 100% acetic acid >(vinegar). Water on regular vinegar will deviate to the left the >reaction due to LeChatelier-Braun principle. >Regards, >F. Dan's not talking about using vinegar for acid esterification in the proce

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Kenji James Fuse
< Pressure causes heat, in a low compression engine there is not enough heat to make the fuel spontaniousely combust. If you raise the compression ratio you create more pressure. That added pressure creates more heat. That heat causes fuel with a lower OCTANE RATING to spontaniousely combust befor

[Biofuel] fuel cell personal power source

2005-11-10 Thread Kirk McLoren
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[Biofuel] Biodiesel Shake Test

2005-11-10 Thread chuck mellin
Good day. Initially we thought we were doing pretty well because we had very clear separation during settling after processing. But for the past few months we've been struggling trying to pass the shake test for quality described at: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality H

[Biofuel] Plastic Welding

2005-11-10 Thread Rob Rogers
Does anyone have any experience welding plastic. I would like to make my own Conical Tank. Will those cheap plastic welders I see on ebay weld HDPE plastic? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/list

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Shake Test

2005-11-10 Thread Keith Addison
Good day Chuck >Good day. Initially we thought we were doing pretty well because we >had very clear separation during settling after processing. But for >the past few months we've been struggling trying to pass the shake >test for quality described at: >http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_ve

Re: [Biofuel] Changing the injection timing on old Mercedes Benz

2005-11-10 Thread Kenji James Fuse
Thanks for the thorough description, Chris! I'm not much of a mechanic, and what is straight forward for you sounds kinda complex to me! And my injection pump is an older model than you describe, I think. At least, it doesn't have the manual pump at the IP, but rather at the main fuel filter. Pr

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Randy Brown
No I don't want to make Biodiesel or soaps what I make is a polymer grease for lubrication of machinery that doesn't wash out or wear out as typical grease using lithium soap -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Appal Energy Sent: Thursday, Novemb

Re: [Biofuel] Another path to biodiesel

2005-11-10 Thread Joe Street
Yesss! And that's the way I hope it stays. Suitably out of control. I like the way that sounds Keith. Joe Keith Addison wrote: snip >These days people we've never heard of are suddenly >appearing on the scene with "handmade biodiesel", quite a lot of them >even call it that. Apart fro

Re: [Biofuel] new source of cheap near-limitless power

2005-11-10 Thread Joe Street
So who gets to decide what is 'good for humanity'? Oh yeah rushing to the marketplace with unproven (or should I say under studied) technologies is a GREAT idea. Let's see where that will lead us. Just out of curiosity do you happen to work for Monsanto? If not I think they would be intere

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Appal Energy
Randy, Greases, at least non-synthetic, are soaps that are insoluble in water. Take the wash water from a biodiesel rinse sometime and put a tablespoon of Epsom salts in it. The water soluble soaps (sodium or potassium) will convert to insoluble magnesium soaps and float on top where they can

Re: [Biofuel] new source of cheap near-limitless power

2005-11-10 Thread Y. K. JAIN
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Re: [Biofuel] Another path to biodiesel

2005-11-10 Thread Ken Provost
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Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Evergreen Solutions
liberty at the jeep dealer, so I figured he had to be a homebrewer. So I said "are you a homebrewer?", and he said "yea, how'd you know?" And so I said "Nobody else knows Jeep makes a diesel liberty." Anyway, he told me that he makes his own diesel from recycled motor oil, which I hadn't heard of

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Randy Brown
No I'm not looking to dissolve grease but to continue making The Environmentally friendly grease using more Environmentally friendly compounds Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zeke Yewdall Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:26 PM To: Bi

Re: [Biofuel] foolproof pump

2005-11-10 Thread Ian & Theresa Sims
Thanks Keith Ian - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] foolproof pump > >In the foolproof recipe a 100w washing machine pump is suggested. >>Has anyone tried it? > > Aleks has been using it f

[Biofuel] Foolproof Method - Vinegar instead of H3PO4?

2005-11-10 Thread Dan Sharp
Is it possible to use vinegar instead of H3PO4 in the foolproof method? A chemist friend says it should theoretically work, but I don't know if there's some other reason for it that he's not thinking of. I give much more credibility to you guys who do this all the time than to anybody with a

Re: [Biofuel] Conical tank or Inductor Tank

2005-11-10 Thread Ian & Theresa Sims
Hi Bill, I am in Wairoa Hawkes Bay. Would like to hear more about what you could supply in the conical tank line Cheers Ian - Original Message - From: "ABC aquaculture" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Conical tank or Inductor Tank

[Biofuel] IRS certifies hybrid vehicles

2005-11-10 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
IRS Certifies Ford and Mercury Hybrid Vehicles for the Clean-Fuel Deduction Washington - Ford Motor Co. (NYSE: F) got a huge break Tuesday when the Internal Revenue Service certified the model year 2006 Ford Escape Hybrid and the 200

[Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt?

2005-11-10 Thread Ken Dunn
What is everyone using as a heat source for preheating? I'm thinking about buying the BriteLyt mentioned on JtF. I could use it for other purposes as well which would be nice. Anyone test it? Care to comment? Take care, Ken ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Another path to biodiesel

2005-11-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Doug Interesting, I doubt it'll be a very well-trodden path though. There's lots of interesting work with solid catalysts, but not outside the laboratory and the patent office so far, AFAIK. Fox-Ginosar eg, the various enzyme processes, branched alkyl esters... I've got a whole collecti

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Derick Giorchino
Hi all. My understanding of the process is the crude oil as it is being refined goes through a variety of changes levels if you like. The first thing to come off is the heaver stuff like tar for roads roofing except then heavy lube (grease) heavy oil jet fuel diesel gasoline right down to very thi

Re: [Biofuel] Compost with Broccoli

2005-11-10 Thread Rexis Tree
link below can help you. Its about shredded plant matter as power source. Maybe you can even power your truck with it. This is one of my favourite reading. http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/methane_pain.html The article talking about a france guy name Pain use shredded plant materia

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Jason and Katie
Actually, i have a friend that just got out of the military, and he said that different variants of jet fuel were what they used in every motorized tool they had, adding different chemicals as they were needed - Original Message - From: "Greg and April" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: We

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread Zeke Yewdall
On 11/9/05, logan vilas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Diesel does require more energy per gallon to distill from crude oil then it > takes to distill gasoline. > You get .153 gallons of distillate fuel oils from a gallon of crude oil. > You get .514 gallons of gasoline from a gallon of crude oil.

Re: [Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Zeke Yewdall
If you're asking if biodiesel will dissolve grease, I think it will. I've used it for removing grease and oil from my hands after working on the car, and it seems to be a pretty good solvent. Just make a test batch of biodiesel, and that should be enough for your test -- no need for a full proce

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread logan vilas
Diesel does require more energy per gallon to distill from curde oil then it takes to distill gasoline. You get .153 gallons of distillate fuel oils from a gallon of crude oil. You get .514 gallons of gasoline from a gallon of crude oil. By weight I have no idea but I am pretty sure those statem

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread logan vilas
The name "octane" comes from the following fact: When you take crude oil and "crack" it in a refinery, you end up getting hydrocarbon chains of different lengths. These different chain lengths can then be separated from each other and blended to form different fuels. For example, you may have h

[Biofuel] How close is Bio diesel and 20 wgt motor oil

2005-11-10 Thread Randy Brown
I make a Environmentally friendly Grease using motor oil in the processes the oil is converted. This was tested by university of new Mexico and deem it safe. I still was not sure so we used flat head minnows for toxicity test. 1 gal with plain water and 1 gal with my grease. This grease is not eff

Re: [Biofuel] diesel vs. gasoline fuels & bike commuting

2005-11-10 Thread David Miller
Hakan Falk wrote: >Logan, > >Diesel is colored heating oil. The coloring is done for taxation control, >since heating oil have a much lower taxation. It is the only difference >and is done to be able to check that cars use the more expensive, >because of high taxation, diesel fuel. Kerosene is la

[Biofuel] Another path to biodiesel

2005-11-10 Thread dwoodard
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Re: [Biofuel] re-processing finished fuel

2005-11-10 Thread bob allen
Howdy Ed, Ed Normandy wrote: > More on re-processing my finished product for a quality test. After > sitting overnight the oil cleared up nicely and there is a small > seperation. The layer at the bottom is only slightly darker than the > fuel on the top. Is this clean glyceryne? it is