Re: [Biofuel] Logic out the window at the White House

2006-03-13 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Hakan,   Can you explain how the dollar debt is effected negatively by higher oil prices? If the value of the dollar is pegged to the price of oil doesn´t a doubling in the price of oil halve the effective dollar debt? I imagine that the treasury is working overtime to print up all those hun

Re: [Biofuel] Logic out the window at the White House

2006-03-13 Thread Hakan Falk
Tom, It would be positive, if the oil was an US asset, but it is not. Money is an instrument, at the end secured by the assets of the country of origin. A higher oil price does mean that US have to pay more, but other currencies move higher against the dollar. The Euro have strengthen from a

Re: [Biofuel] Scientists Racing to Ease Painful PTSD Memories

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike >There is a lot of dissent growing here but, no real characters to >motivate the people (yet). Although intellectuals like Chomsky are >vital to educating the movement, I would give anything to bring back >the Chicago Seven. Do you think they still make them that way Mike? Hope sprin

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]How Islamic inventors changed the world

2006-03-13 Thread fox mulder
Source: The Independent http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article350594.ece How Islamic inventors changed the world From coffee to cheques and the three-course meal, the Muslim world has given us many innovations that we take for granted in daily life. As a new exhibi

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77

2006-03-13 Thread fox mulder
Source: http://www.physics911.net/olmsted.htm Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77 By Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsies

[Biofuel] Cross Posted, Re: World Energy Consumption

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Redler
I thought this might be of interest. I thought that Ken made a good point but, before I posted it, he wanted to be sure that the reader understood his method so, I included our dialog.   MikeKen Boak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Ken Boak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [Biofuel] Scientists Racing to Ease Painful PTSD Memories

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Marilyn >Keith at Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: >"Does anything know anything about soldiers being given drugs >before going into combat, as has been alleged?" > >Several US militiary men returning from Iraq have become violent >against their wives, some wives being killed by these husban

Re: [Biofuel] Scientists Racing to Ease Painful PTSD Memories

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Redler
Excellent link Keith. Thank you.   You wrote: "It's not like there's not enough BS to get a person all fired up after all."   Although there's a sad flip side to this observation, I like to think of the amazing effect a struggle has on the human condition.   You might be right. We might not b

Re: [Biofuel] [SPAM] Re: Logic out the window at the White House

2006-03-13 Thread Gary L. Green
Federal Reserve.  It isn't federal and there are no reserves.  There are no assets to back up your money, just the BELIEF that there is.Believe brother, believe!On  13Mar, 2006, at 7:05 PM, Hakan Falk wrote:Money is an instrument, at the end  secured by the assets of the country of origin _

Re: [Biofuel] Logic out the window at the White House

2006-03-13 Thread Andy Karpay
I just viewed the DVD movie "Why we fight". Look for it either via the internet for purchase, or to be viewed locally at independent theaters. It is illustrative and informative. Should be viewed by all earthlings, especially those from the United States. Andy Karpay -Original Message-

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted, Re: World Energy Consumption

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Addison
>I thought this might be of interest. I thought that Ken made a good >point but, before I posted it, he wanted to be sure that the reader >understood his method so, I included our dialog. > >Mike Thanks Mike. Ken's right, though I think we already did that, more or less. World energy use http:/

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted, Re: World Energy Consumption

2006-03-13 Thread Michael Redler
Oops!   ...my bad. Sorry.   MikeKeith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I thought this might be of interest. I thought that Ken made a good >point but, before I posted it, he wanted to be sure that the reader >understood his method so, I included our dialog.>>MikeThanks Mike. Ken's right, th

Re: [Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Joe Street
Hi Nigel; Yes I meant keep it manual.  To what advantage?  Well simplicity mostly. Automation IMHO does not offer much advantage unless it is for commercial reasons.  If you are looking to do large scale production then you have a different paradigm than me so we are talking at odds anyway, bu

Re: [Biofuel] hybrid efficiency

2006-03-13 Thread Joe Street
Good points E.Allen; I haven't seen that one.  I'll have to look for it.  Since you say Faye looked so gorgeous but I take it that was from a better time when actresses didn't have to get naked in order to elicit such a reaction.  But then maybe there will be a remake with Halley Berry..? 

Re: [Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Joe Street
Ok if that's all you are after then forget about the automation.  Make yourself up a stock titration solution so that it is always consistent.  I made a 1 liter stock of 1% KOH and then take 100 mls of that and make a liter of 0.1% and it is lasting a long while.  Measuring 10 grams or 100 ml a

[Biofuel] Combination Of Processes Results In Cleaner Petrol

2006-03-13 Thread D. Mindock
Source: Delft University of Technology Posted: March 13, 2006 Combination Of Processes Results In Cleaner Petrol One problem confronting the oil industry is that extracted mineral oil (due to increasing scarcity) is becoming heavier and 'dirtier'. This is reflected, for instance, in a highe

[Biofuel] Tallow

2006-03-13 Thread Parraga Pablo-Francisco
Hi,   Is there someone Who had worked Bio diesel from tallow?   I do Know the process but I am afraid I not sure about quantities.  What one should be the Ph for the trtation process?   Is OK KOH and Methanol?   Well any one Who Knows Would be helpful   Thanks     Pablo            _

[Biofuel] Military Madness: How About a Little Common Sense?

2006-03-13 Thread biofuel
Military Madness: How About a Little Common Sense? MILITARY LUNACY: HOW ABOUT A BIT OF COMMON SENSE? March 9, 2006 http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2006/000233.html By Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman In a crazy place, even the most modest steps toward sanity can seem radical

Re: [Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Jack Schwartz
Joe Street writes:  ... If you are really well coordinated you might be able to control the [titrating] solution with one hand and stir with the other but I am waaay too clumsy for that ...  [versus using a magnetic stirrer] Joe, you gave me a chuckle along with some pleasant nostalgia.  My chemi

[Biofuel] Biofuel conferences

2006-03-13 Thread biofuel
AOCS Announces 97th Annual Meeting & Expo in St. Louis, Missouri http://www.soyatech.com/bluebook/news/sponsor.ldml?a=33421 http://www.aocs.org/meetings/annual_mtg/ http://www.aocs.org/meetings/biodiesel/am06/ Short Course on Biodiesel: Market Trends, Chemistry, and Production • April 29-30 Op

Re: [Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Nigel Kelly
Cheers Joe,   I'm working small but I'm an automation guy. If it can be, I like to do it (with processes such as these anyway.   That being said - there's a common sense limit. No point in spending $5,000 on gear to automate it, if the task only takes 5 minutes anyway...   NK - Origina

[Biofuel] Organic Food Goes Mainstream

2006-03-13 Thread biofuel
Well, I did a little searching on an organic brand that we've been buying recently because it is the only "organic" food available in the stores nearby. ("O Organics" in Safeway, distributed through Omnibrands Inc.) The prevailing logic from our consumer training is to support organic products by

[Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Jason & Katie
Mr. Street, how does semi local sound? there are almost a dozen towns of more than 1,000 but less than 10,000 people spread over two counties in the (rather inaccurately named, i might add) Quad Cities, plus the original four cities, and until the eighties (surprise) there were large farm imple

[Biofuel] Bio diesel newbie q - How do I accurately measure 100+ litres of oil?

2006-03-13 Thread Nigel Kelly
I suspect this is a complete newbie question - but being a newbie - I feel entitled to ask.   ok - picture this - I've been out and done the decent thing - found myself a lot of Waste Veggie Oil that I want to convert to Bio Diesel.. I do the titration, and get the exact amount of NzOH to add

Re: [Biofuel] [off topic]Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77

2006-03-13 Thread lres1
Flight by disc, It was reported that the crash in the Antarctic was due to a last minute programming disc inserted into the flight control system. The disc had supposedly the wrong data and put the plane Air new Zealand flight 901, into mount Erebus.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Erebu

[Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Jason & Katie
i cant help but be aggravated, i have been searching for almost a week and a half for a formula that would result in a pH of 8.4-8.6, but of the hundreds of pages i have read, all the formulas are strictly neutralizing, and i dont have the math skills/intelligence to modify them, and noone posts

Re: [Biofuel] Military Madness: How About a Little Common Sense?

2006-03-13 Thread Rexis Tree
Where do those money come from? $600 billion a year is pretty insane, each americans from new born babies to dying old people are paying 2000 US dollar just to let your country to continue bullying smaller nations while paying 33 bucks in R&D of renewable energy. Oww, how to define common sense? __

Re: [Biofuel] automating titration

2006-03-13 Thread Burak Cedetas
There will be 2 parts to automate the titration, 1- Electrical&electronical This will invove the sensors (ph meter) actuators and the controller which all this equipment will be wired to. 2- Mechanical The structure which will collect the sample and deliver it so it can be titrated. This may cost

Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted, Re: World Energy Consumption

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Addison
>Oops! > >...my bad. Sorry. No probs. Keith >Mike > >Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I thought this might be of interest. I thought that Ken made a good > >point but, before I posted it, he wanted to be sure that the reader > >understood his method so, I included our dialog. > > >

Re: [Biofuel] Bio diesel newbie q - How do I accurately measure 100+ litres of oil?

2006-03-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Nigel >I suspect this is a complete newbie question - but being a newbie - >I feel entitled to ask. Newbies aren't entitled to anything special that other members aren't also entitled to. What you're obliged to do however is to try to avoid asking newbie questions that have been asked an