Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Jason & Katie
>Now realy scard to post, Steve dude, relax, being incorrect isnt of itself "wrong" as long as you own up to it, and do your best to find correct information. you can be wrong here, as long as you admit it and fix the mistakes. > ___ Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Steve Barton
So sorry,  I was thinking that the J-58 used JP-8, Its been awhile since a was around a fuel farm. I believe that it was JP-7 that the J-58 used. Sorry for any confusion.   Now realy scard to post, Steve - Original Message - From: Paul S Cantrell To: biofuel@sustainablelists

Re: [Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......

2006-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Bob >Hi All, >This can't be an urban myth, because it didn't take place in the >city. Right? Decide for yourself. Not at all, just check snopes:: http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm Urban Legends Reference Pages: Humor (Dammed Beavers!) Nice piece, been doing the rounds for eig

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Steve Barton
About 20 plus years ago I worked in a fuel farm and around a test stand that was testing  - running a J-58 jet engine that used JP-8 fuel and that stuff was loaded with PCBs, acts as a coolant for the fuel as it burnes. Not uesr if it was an additive used just for this engine or in all JP-8. The

[Biofuel] These dam greenies are everywhere......

2006-08-11 Thread Bob Molloy
Hi All, This can't be an urban myth, because it didn't take place in the city. Right? Decide for yourself.   Bob.   Check your backyard, these dam greenies are everywhere.   SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County   Dear Mr. DeVries:   It has come to the att

[Biofuel] sunchokes, aka. jerusalem artichokes, etc

2006-08-11 Thread Jason & Katie
when referring to the harvest of jerusalem artichoke heads do you mean the tuber roots or the flowers? because 1200 gallons an acre is pretty damn good by my book. an acre is the size of my parents front yard, and they dont use that much of it ___ B

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
Probably because it is military fuel. I suspect the biocide makes for toxic exhaust. Commercial fuel gets condemned all the time. Bacteria bodies clog filters and one of the metabolic products is water. A friend of mine used to get 500 gallons delivered for $50. Probably the charge was transpor

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Paul S Cantrell
I don't blame them one bit...saving the airport disposal costs to boot.On 8/11/06, Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Hi Paul; I can't say for sure but I have heard of the guys who work as ground crew at the Tortonto airport putting jet fuel in their diesel cars.  Apparently fuel whi

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Paul S Cantrell
It looks and smells like absolutely brand new.  Apparently the additives in JP-8 include enough *-icide to keep it out.  Also it was sealed tightly with no air.On 8/11/06, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would expect any fuel that old to be half digested by bacteria. KirkZeke Yewdall <

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Paul S Cantrell
LOL!  The college would have to pay a company A LOT to take it away.  It will probably be poured into the big diesel tank, where it will be an insignificant part.I poured the 1 liter sample into the tank after work with absolutely no noticeable difference on the drive home. For sure, BD would be be

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
If you are on this list odds are you are not average. Average is the people I just did jury duty with.   KirkMichael Redler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:"Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi."   Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented.

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Michael Redler
"Tesla invented the modern world far more than Edison or Westinghouse or Marconi."   Damn! I didn't even know the modern world was invented.   - Redler (average person)    Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I am not a fan of that Ramtha person. She is quite egotistical. But I would n

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
I would expect any fuel that old to be half digested by bacteria. KirkZeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are we so strapped for fuel that we have to siphon 20 year old stuff out of helicopters now???     I guess it does make more sense than throwing it away, so I'd go for it.  Since the main

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Are we so strapped for fuel that we have to siphon 20 year old stuff out of helicopters now???     I guess it does make more sense than throwing it away, so I'd go for it.  Since the main problem with kerosene in diesel engines is lack of lubricity, I'd mix it with biodiesel instead of diesel -- of

Re: [Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Joe Street
Hi Paul; I can't say for sure but I have heard of the guys who work as ground crew at the Tortonto airport putting jet fuel in their diesel cars.  Apparently fuel which is drained from wing tanks is not allowed to be put back in so they often have some 'waste'. Joe Paul S Cantrell wrote: Goo

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: White House official: "weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big"

2006-08-11 Thread Jason & Katie
who said anything about Islamic fascists? its the christian fascists that bother me... On Fri, 2006-08-11 at 02:09 -0500, D. Mindock wrote: > > > > Lest you think the Bush administration would overlook any opportunity to use > any event for partisan political gain. > > Now if only the Democrat

[Biofuel] Fuel Help

2006-08-11 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Good Afternoon all,I have an interesting story for ya'll today.  I work at a small military college.  Being a military school, we have a tank, a personnel carrier, a rocket, several howitzers, an F-4 Phantom, an anchor and a Huey Cobra helicopter on the parade field.  The helicopter is why I'm writ

Re: [Biofuel] test please

2006-08-11 Thread D.V Subramanian
Yes, I got yr test msg. D.V.S. ManiOn 8/11/06, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: please reply if this gets through, i changed email clients, and now ikeep getting rejected emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED]___ Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghtt

Re: [Biofuel] Sweden how they do it

2006-08-11 Thread Mark` Cookson
Hellow every one I was listening to the radio this afternoon here int the UK and a programme come on called Costing the Earth. Its subject was how Sweden are changing away from fossil fuels. I found it very interesting as you may. Follow the link here then go down the left of the page to [Liste

[Biofuel] Bush and Blair

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=3873acd4c904f2b2d8e094d02e9a5f7e.607491 Open multiple messages at once with the all new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_

Re: [Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am not a fan of that Ramtha person. She is quite egotistical. But I would not dismiss the whole film out of hand. Some interesting comments were made that are valid. Remember these people tried to explain the "unexplainable" at least using the frame of reference of the man in the street. Try e

Re: [Biofuel] Bayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, Asia

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
More psychopathic behaviour It is the norm not the exception. Without accountability they will not self regulate. The truth is not in them.   Kirk"D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.mercola.com/2006/aug/5/bayer_sells_aids-infected_drug_banned_in_us_in_europe_asia.htmBayer Sell

Re: [Biofuel] Synfuel charade fizzles

2006-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
same with the colorado oil shale. They will build all sorts of pilot plants with taxpayer funds. Then the oil companies will own what was built. Same as the hydro dams in Montana and I am sure every citizen can find examples in their state of residence. And when the tax funds dry up they will blo

[Biofuel] What the bleep -was galloway

2006-08-11 Thread Joe Street
Here is a link to an entry in the skeptic's dictionary about the producer of that movie.  Have a read and do a check on the 'experts' that appeared in that movie to see what their peers have to say about them if you want to have a good laugh. http://skepdic.com/channel.html Too funny! Joe M&

[Biofuel] glycerine layer

2006-08-11 Thread RicAlls
I am about to advance to a 30 gallon reactor. All during my one and 15 liter educational phases, my glycerin layer has always resulted in a semi solid jelly but the fuel always washes beautifully in four washes to a crystal clear dark gold amber after drying. My current yield to 800 ml of fuel for

Re: [Biofuel] Farmer in France arrested for driving vegetable-powered truck

2006-08-11 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Vive la SVO Revolution!!!On 8/9/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Forwarding from another source.You may need a subscription to see the full article via the URL. Darryl===http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article1214520.eceFriday, August 4th, 2006John L

[Biofuel] Eco-anarchist Murray Bookchin, 86; saw capitalism as a cancer to nature

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/obituaries/articles/2006/08/11/eco_anarchist_murray_bookchin_86_saw_capitalism_as_a_cancer_to_nature/ Eco-anarchist Murray Bookchin, 86; saw capitalism as a cancer to nature By Valerie J. Nelson, Los Angeles Times | August 11, 2006 LOS ANGELES -- Murray Bookchin

[Biofuel] Fw: Interesting analysis

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
Coincidence or not? My gut feeling is not.  Peace, D. Mindock   U.K. Terror Plot Foiled Just a Day after Lieberman's Defeat. Coincidence? Submitted by BuzzFlash on Thu, 08/10/2006 - 10:29am. Analysis A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS The pattern continue

[Biofuel] Bayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, Asia

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.mercola.com/2006/aug/5/bayer_sells_aids-infected_drug_banned_in_us_in_europe_asia.htmBayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, AsiaRecently unearthed documents show that the drug company Bayer sold millionsof dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine -- F

Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh

2006-08-11 Thread Thor Burfine
Well Scott, Here in Texas we can actually apply for rebates for non road use fuel.I spent two hours last quarter doing the paperwork, including reviewing all receipts, and was entitled to a wopping $93.27.It was worth my time but not the migrane From: "Scott Burton" <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Biofuel] FFA Recovery

2006-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
>I kindly ask to Todd Swearingen and/or to Jan Lieuwe Bolding >described the process again as I can not find it in my files. >I thank you in advnce for your kindness >Very best for us >Chic Hi Chic It's here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycsep.html Separating glycerine/FFAs Best Kei

[Biofuel] Online Banking Security Problem

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
 Keyloggers are for sale on the web. Just google "keylogger" and be amazed. Of course they can be used for criminal activities, and are.   Peace, D. Mindock   http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/08/060810211259.htm   Source: Cardiff University Posted: Aug

[Biofuel] Fw: White House official: "weeks before September 11th, this is going to play big"

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
Lest you think the Bush administration would overlook any opportunity to use any event for partisan political gain. Now if only the Democrats would call him and the Republicans on the fact that Osama's been forgotten. [Also that 9/11 happened with the Repugs in power. The FBI agents in the

[Biofuel] Synfuel charade fizzles

2006-08-11 Thread D. Mindock
http://www.wvgazette.com/section/Editorials/2006081010 August 11, 2006 Synfuels Charade fizzles [but not before they made $billions] THE federal synfuels tax credit sounded like a good idea in 1980 - give breaks to companies that create brand-new synthetic fuels to reduce the nation's depende

Re: [Biofuel] George Galloway _ Lebanon. View it whileyou can

2006-08-11 Thread M&K DuPree
Hi D...thank you.  Say, thank you too for alerting me way back when to the video What the Bleep Do We Know?  Outstanding.  Will be watching again.  Mike - Original Message - From: D. Mindock To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 1:51 AM

Re: [Biofuel] FFA Recovery

2006-08-11 Thread FRANCISCO
I kindly ask to Todd Swearingen and/or to Jan Lieuwe Bolding described the process again as I can not find it in my files. I thank you in advnce for your kindness Very best for us Chic Jan Lieuwe Bolding wrote: Tom,   I get an FFA layer and Glycerine layer.     Jan Lieuwe Bolding

Re: [Biofuel] the tax man cometh

2006-08-11 Thread Scott Burton
An interesting tidbit of information on this…  If the U.S. Government is spending 750 billion on defense, they are spending on defense roughly every U.S. Dollar in circulation worldwide.   In April of 2000 the Treasury estimated the total U.S. Currency in circulation worldwide was 600 bil