[Biofuel] Chilling stuff...

2009-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
Fascist America: Are We There Yet? by Sara Robinson Published on Sunday, August 9, 2009 by OurFuture.org The Five Stages of Fascism Robert O. Paxton The Journal of Modern History, Vol. 70, No. 1. (Mar., 1998), pp. 1-23.

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2009-08-11 Thread Kirk McLoren
From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] Chilling stuff... To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 10:38 AM Fascist America: Are We There Yet? by Sara Robinson Published on Sunday, August 9, 2009 by OurFuture.org <http://www.commondreams.org/view/200

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2009-08-12 Thread Keith Addison
that '...[n]othing outlasts the Energizer...', but it was eventually changed after a lawsuit filed by Duracell disputing Energizer's claim." Truth: instead "Energizer ran a series of commercials featuring a fake rival battery, Supervolt (including a Supervolt weasel ma

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2009-08-13 Thread Chris Burck
not to be too glib, but. . .while i commend sarah for finally waking up, she should have stopped hitting the snooze button 8 or 10 (or 15 or 20) years ago at least. some of these signposts she's talking about have been in evidence for at least that long. "now the guessing game is over"? gimme a

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2009-08-14 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris You're quite right. Not glib, it's succinct. >not to be too glib, but. . .while i commend sarah for finally waking >up, she should have stopped hitting the snooze button 8 or 10 (or 15 >or 20) years ago at least. :-) Minimum 28 years ago I think. Interesting, nonetheless. >some of thes

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2009-08-14 Thread Jim Worthy
"...but I think if a disgruntled Obama voter had a read of Paxton and took another look at the election and since, it might wake him up a bit." Speaking as one of those disgruntled Obama voters, I think I am more or less awake. And also not sitting on my ass, either. Some of us are discouraged, ye

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2009-08-14 Thread Chris Burck
you're right about paxton. it has it's flaws, but still a good overall analysis. it's good that the press points out the pre- and post-innauguration obama disconnects. i only wish it weren't only (or virtually so) the so-called lefties they bothered to critique. i was watching the coverage of t

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2009-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris >you're right about paxton. it has it's flaws, but still a good >overall analysis. I think you have to be eclectic, flaws and all. It's not easy to find a one-size-fits-all BS detector these days, the art and science of BS is too refined for that. Some people do very well, a lot more

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2009-08-15 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jim >"...but I think if a disgruntled Obama voter had a read of Paxton and took >another look at the >election and since, it might wake him up a bit." > >Speaking as one of those disgruntled Obama voters, I think I am more or less >awake. And also not sitting on my ass, either. Some of us are d

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2009-08-15 Thread Jim Worthy
Keith, Take it personally? Of course I do, but not in an offended sense. >Not to be disparaging, but are you holding his feet to the fire? Are >you getting any results? Yes, I did and so did many others I know personally if by that you mean did we take the next step and voice our opinion on appo

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2009-08-15 Thread Chris Burck
"just another step in the maturation of human affairs. Maybe it will get bad. . .but we will persist. . . ." don't be so sure. there are two very crucial things we mustn't forget. firstly, that neither germany nor japan were undisputed hegemonic superpowers with global reach, nor had they nucle

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2009-08-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chris Quite so. > i think what keith really meant re holding obama's feet to the >fire, was mass action. Yes. For instance, Israel's assault on Gaza at the end of last year probably outraged Americans about as much as everyone else. FRIDAY, JANUARY 02, 2009 "First Poll on US Opinion on Gaz

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2009-08-16 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jim >Keith, > >Take it personally? Of course I do, but not in an offended sense. :-) That's cool. > >Not to be disparaging, but are you holding his feet to the fire? Are >>you getting any results? > >Yes, I did and so did many others I know personally if by that you mean did >we take the nex

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2009-08-16 Thread Jim Worthy
Keith, Indeed we do share much and I appreciate that. :-) As to the future, we will keep it up. Jim On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hi Jim > > >Keith, > > > >Take it personally? Of course I do, but not in an offended sense. > > :-) That's cool. > > >