Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
virtually unreadable, so it's difficult to see what the people you say you're replying to actually said. Here are the originals, just for the record: <http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg72690.html> 2008/05/27 Re: [Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-28 Thread Kurt Schasker
eech, education for the masses, environmentalism, and on and on. These are ideals that suffer greatly under islamofascism. Kurt> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 10:30:56 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Kirk McLoren
d, Sharia law seems at great odds > with any form of freedom that westerners are accustomed to. > Date: Wed, 7 > May 2008 06:14:49 +0900> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org> From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again> > > Hello Kurt>

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Keith Addison
You're quite right, some confusion there - my apologies, and thanks for the correction. Best Keith >After a quick google, I think the numbers show that China in >absolute numbers is much more likely to kill its prisoners than the >US or any other country. I would suppose a fundamental diffe

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Evans Antoniou
interesting. --- On Tue, 5/27/08, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Received: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 9:35 AM Hello Kurt Thanks for the response. But it's st

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread talus95889
After a quick google, I think the numbers show that China in absolute numbers is much more likely to kill its prisoners than the US or any other country. I would suppose a fundamental difference is the amount of publicity surrounding each execution depending upon the country. "The exact number

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Chris Burck
those governments in opposition to the US > >government. However, just > because the term is not well understood > >does not make its correct use > inappropriate.> >> >As a side note, I am not sure if the countries I listed > all enforce > >Sharia Law. I apologize if

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-27 Thread Keith Addison
ll the world's ills (though that's a popular pastime these days), but you're certainly in no position to point fingers like you're doing when your own backyard's in such a mess, sad to say. Best Keith > > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:14:49 +0900> To: >biofue

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-26 Thread Kurt Schasker
t odds with any form of freedom that westerners are accustomed to. > Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 06:14:49 +0900> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again> > Hello Kurt> > >I am too lazy to double check myself!

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-13 Thread Dawie Coetzee
Keith >Of course there's a lot to be said >for ease of communication, but people tend to see how like us other >creatures are or aren't as a measure of their superior worth, or of >their uselessness, which is odious. That applies as much between humans as between humans and other species. How

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-13 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip >Keith Addison wrote: >|> How about Neo-con Fascist. >|> >|> Chris >| >| That sounds serviceable. I suppose some people would stick "pig" on >| the end, it fits quite well. Fine critters, pigs. I never met a pig >| who was a Fascist. I think Orwell gave them a bad press. >| >| Best >| >|

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-12 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keith Addison wrote: |> How about Neo-con Fascist. |> |> Chris | | That sounds serviceable. I suppose some people would stick "pig" on | the end, it fits quite well. Fine critters, pigs. I never met a pig | who was a Fascist. I think Orwell gave them

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-10 Thread Keith Addison
- >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 8:28 am >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again > >>(oh, dear, you got me started. . .) > >:-) That's nice. > >>how about corpiracy (inflicted on &g

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-09 Thread willapapacific
How about Neo-con Fascist. Chris -Original Message- From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 9 May 2008 8:28 am Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again >(oh, dear, you got me started. . .) :-) That's nic

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-09 Thread Keith Addison
>(oh, dear, you got me started. . .) :-) That's nice. >how about corpiracy (inflicted on >us by the "neoprivateers"-nice little double entendre)? probably not. > too cutesy. Not bad. Corpiracy is good, needs the right pronunciation though; neoprivateers is nice but it's not headline language

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Burck
(oh, dear, you got me started. . .)how about corpiracy (inflicted on us by the "neoprivateers"-nice little double entendre)? probably not. too cutesy. if a new word emerges, it'll most likely come from the street. meanwhile, oligarchy works for me, too. that, or babylon. On 5/7/08, Keith Addi

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip >Keith Addison wrote: >> Hi Chip, Chris and all >> >> This is the famous Mussolini quote: "Fascism should more properly be >> called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate >> power." -- Benito Mussolini >> >> But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See: >> http:

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-07 Thread Chip Mefford
Keith Addison wrote: > Hi Chip, Chris and all > > This is the famous Mussolini quote: "Fascism should more properly be > called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate > power." -- Benito Mussolini > > But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See: > http://www.publiceye.org/

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Keith Addison
at information incorrect. I am >too lazy to double check myself! > >I do agree that the US is slipping into a nationalistic version of >fascism. This is why it is important to celebrate other country's >successes, to show that the US way is not always the best, or righ

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Kurt Schasker
always the best, or right way. Kurt> Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:28:30 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again> > The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liber

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Chip, Chris and all This is the famous Mussolini quote: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini But Public Eye reckons he never said it. See: http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html Mussolini on

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-06 Thread Chip Mefford
Chris Burck wrote: > well, when terms like "islamo-fascist" get slung about, yeah, you bet > the meaning has been degraded. that's precisely the purpose for which > such terms have been coined. that extreme notwithstanding, and though > the pejorative use of the word exists, it has been far less

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Andy Karpay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chip Mefford Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:52 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again Chris Burck wrote: > the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a > phi

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chris Burck
well, when terms like "islamo-fascist" get slung about, yeah, you bet the meaning has been degraded. that's precisely the purpose for which such terms have been coined. that extreme notwithstanding, and though the pejorative use of the word exists, it has been far less abused than the barbs typi

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chip Mefford
Chris Burck wrote: > the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a > philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism, > production/productivism, and strong government intervention in favor > of the economic elites. im(not so -h)o that has to do with the fact that it's a pejorative

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Chris Burck
the wiki articles place too much emphasis imho on fascism as a philosophy, though they do discuss corporatism, production/productivism, and strong government intervention in favor of the economic elites. On 5/5/08, Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Kirk McLoren
Good URL Andy. Everyone should look at it. Most politicians seem to be a sick breed of cat. Power mad sociopaths. How they can be so toxic and not even have a hint of their pathology is beyond me. Kirk Andy Karpay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For "some reason" Wikipedia definition of fasc

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-05 Thread Andy Karpay
For "some reason" Wikipedia definition of fascism has lost its references to merging corporatism with the state (it's what I don't like about Wikipedia). However, some common threads can be seen here. 14 Points of fascism: The warning signs http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm AK The Fasci

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
The Fascist State organizes the nation, but leaves a sufficient margin of liberty to the individual; the latter is deprived of all useless and possibly harmful freedom, but retains what is essential; the deciding power in this question cannot be the individual, but the State alone ---

Re: [Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-05-04 Thread Chip Mefford
Was that fascist as in /extreme/ nationalism? Or is that fascist as in pejorative label applied to things we don't like, without any real definition or meaning? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/li

[Biofuel] Fascists at it again

2008-04-30 Thread Kirk McLoren
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