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[Refs hotlinked in the online version.] Posted by Robert Greenwald at 7:56 am January 16, 2011 No Room for the Pentagon's Wars in Dr. King's Dream This Monday, January 17th, is Martin Luther King

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Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. would "understand" and "recognize" the need for the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan if he were alive today, according to an Obama administration official. In a speech commemorating the late hero days before Martin Luther King, Jr. Day on Monday, the Department o

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Arrows are re-usable. It's also hard to walk around with a drawn bow not realizing it while you are pointing it at yourself and other unintended targets so the number of deaths due to accidental discharge would drop dramatically if everyone went back to the bow. It is also more respectful of

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>> >> I suspect that those who keep guns for civilized reasons don't go through >> crates >> of ammunition at a time, and might be quite amenable to small-scale home >> reloading of cartridges. >> >> Regards >> >> Dawie Coetzee >> >>

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e, and might be quite amenable to small-scale home > reloading of cartridges. > > Regards > > Dawie Coetzee > > > > > > > From: David Penfold<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > Sent: Th

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etzee   From: David Penfold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 1:07:39 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gun Crazy I'm a little bit worried about people being branded Gun Crazy if they have guns. I have several

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Hello David >I'm a little bit worried about people being branded Gun Crazy if >they have guns. I don't think that's the case. The US is branded gun crazy because it is gun crazy, as the comparative gun murder figures consistently show. That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone in the US who

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Hi Keith, On 1/12/2011 11:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: >> Thanks Keith for understanding in your own way (I think). I don't see the >> USA as being out of control like some country's. > > Like Iraq or Afghanistan? I wish it weren't so but yes & around Israel. >> I lived in Minneapolis >> for thr

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I'm a little bit worried about people being branded Gun Crazy if they have guns. I have several guns, which are kept in a secure locker. I live in a very rural area of France near Switzerland and see my neighbours hunting. I'm not into that myself, but I'm not a townie come to tell them how to

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>Thanks Keith for understanding in your own way (I think). I don't see the >USA as being out of control like some country's. Like Iraq or Afghanistan? >I lived in Minneapolis >for three years and never once felt the need to pull a gun on someone. >Didn't have any guns then. Wanted a 30-06 bolt

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Very good response Robert. 25 miles north of here folks in the college town offered to folks workshops during the Bush-Cheney Iraq war along the lines you talked about. I never was able to attend and wished I had. So much more enriching then bring them on or drill baby drill. -Mark Hoagy On 1/

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On 1/12/2011 8:23 AM, Joe Street wrote: > So in your opinion Robert how do a people in the current reality (let's > say the US citizenry for example) best 'defend' themselves from a > government gone bad? > The same way Dr. King did with civil rights. The same way Ghandi overturned British

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So in your opinion Robert how do a people in the current reality (let's say the US citizenry for example) best 'defend' themselves from a government gone bad? Joe robert and benita rabello wrote: >snip > > My problem with the concept of having guns as defense against the >State is that th

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Thanks Keith for understanding in your own way (I think). I don't see the USA as being out of control like some country's. I lived in Minneapolis for three years and never once felt the need to pull a gun on someone. Didn't have any guns then. Wanted a 30-06 bolt action for living in Alaska or m

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On 1/12/2011 7:16 AM, Zeke Yewdall wrote: > >> This is the issue for many people... I was talking to a friend last night, > who owns several guns, including a semi-automatic rifle. He's never killed > anything with them... he doesn't hunt, he doesn't even use the mouse traps > that kill mice and

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I only have one registered gun and its 22 rifle. After the past two years with US citizens going ammo crazy I finally got some subsonic long rifle 22's. I'm not particularly dangerous. Just won't to shoot my rotating targets. Maybe bag a few rabbits and squirrels for the freezer. No big deal.

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>Lighten up Keith. No need. >2.4 million Americans die each year. One year I'll be >in the bunch. I like guns. I have a few for target and small game >hunting. I like the right to bear arms. Not to quibble, but I think having a few guns for target and small game hunting is not the same as b

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > As regards guns, I'm not very fond of the things. I especially dislike the > ones > in the hands of the State. As much as I'd want a disarmed population I > wouldn't > want it faced with an armed police and an armed mi

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Lighten up Keith. 2.4 million Americans die each year. One year I'll be in the bunch. I like guns. I have a few for target and small game hunting. I like the right to bear arms. I'm not giving it up. Never have been in support of military build up after the cold war. I'm interested in doing s

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Hello Hoagy >I'm having a heck of a time finding statistics on >hospital death or medical treatments for the USA Keith. >I haven't a clue where to find that. In the list archives (and/or Google). Search for "iatrogenic". >Do you know? You're getting thoroughly sidetracked (no surprise). As Chi

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e the question is, ought some people be instructed to use guns to ensure that other people don't have any? Regards Dawie Coetzee   From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tue, 11 January, 2011 23:19:38 Subj

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I'm having a heck of a time finding statistics on hospital death or medical treatments for the USA Keith. I haven't a clue where to find that. Do you know? -Mark Hoagy On 1/11/2011 2:18 PM, Keith Addison wrote: >> That's fine Keith > > I certainly don't think so, but if you do I guess that's you

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Let me know Keith if this helps. I see there's been a dramatic change since I last looked at traffic deaths. I suppose if people are driving less, less deaths. -Mark Hoagy Bicycle Almanac: Statistics about Safety, Fatalities, & Injuries http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/almanac-safety.html Car

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>That's fine Keith I certainly don't think so, but if you do I guess that's your business. >but motor vehicles here in the USA >cause far higher deaths. How did that discussion pan out? > >-Mark Hoagy Yes, we had that discussion too. Small cars got blamed (which means you'd make no sense whats

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I've simplified my life more and more as I've gotten older and bicycle riding 10 miles to town and back isn't all that bad. I use my car to get groceries in the winter time now. Otherwise the bicycle carries six grocery bags home and I go to town a few times a week to socialize. I have a advantag

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tainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg66127.html > > > > there have been others. > > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "MH"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 11,

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. > > All the best > > :wq > > |- Original Message - > |From: "MH"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org > |Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 2:01:31 PM > |Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gun Crazy > | > |When 9 thousand Americans

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I suppose there will be a polar opposition and bias I suppose. I've increasingly become use to using my bicycle for the last 14 years and no inflected injuries on others. I'm pretty patient and can wait for pedestrian and vehicle traffic. And I cause less pollution to I think. -Mark Hoagy On 1/11

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uary 11, 2011 2:01:31 PM |Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gun Crazy | |When 9 thousand Americans kill each other with guns that's terrible. |45 thousand die on US roads each year. I suppose most just fall asleep |reading this. -Mark Hoagy ___ Bi

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sustainablelists.org/msg66127.html >> >> there have been others. > >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "MH"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:22:12 PM &g

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-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg66127.html > > there have been others. >> - Original Message - >> From: "MH"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org >> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:22:1

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January 11, 2011 1:22:12 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Gun Crazy > >That's fine Keith but motor vehicles here in the USA >cause far higher deaths. How did that discussion pan out? > >-Mark Hoagy ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@susta

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That's fine Keith but motor vehicles here in the USA cause far higher deaths. How did that discussion pan out? -Mark Hoagy On 1/11/2011 11:55 AM, Keith Addison wrote: > Hi Hoagy > >> "If you lack the stability or ability to be a responsible >> gun owner, then by all means you should not have one

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Hi Hoagy >"If you lack the stability or ability to be a responsible >gun owner, then by all means you should not have one but >don't try to tell me that I can't or shouldn't have one." > >That quote makes sense to me. So then would this also make sense to you? "The US has well over 250 million g

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"If you lack the stability or ability to be a responsible gun owner, then by all means you should not have one but don't try to tell me that I can't or shouldn't have one." That quote makes sense to me. I don't plan on going to jail for life. Losing my temper and shooting up folks doesn't appeal t

[Biofuel] Gun Crazy

Tue, 11 Jan 2011 Foreign Policy In Focus [World Beat] Gun Crazy A project of the Institute for Policy Studies World Beat http://www.fpif.org/worldbeat by JOHN FEFFER | Tuesday, January 11, 2011 Vol. 6, No. 2 Gun Crazy The Pentagon and the National Rifle Association have a lot in common these d