Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-03 Thread Greg Harbican
02, 2005 15:36 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science > Greg, jet fuel could be made from a number of sources such > as fossil natural gas or coal, or better from renewable > sources. basically any source of carbon and hydrogen as > found in num

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread bob allen
ng to cause an increase in the cost of flying. - Original Message - From: "Juan Boveda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 15:47 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hello Greg and all.

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Addison
veda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 15:47 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science > Hello Greg and all. > > I disagree with some appreciation about the cost of flying because the fuel > cost incr

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Greg Harbican
MAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 15:47 Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science > Hello Greg and all. > > I disagree with some appreciation about the cost of flying because the fuel > cost increase th

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Greg Harbican
Sorry about the delay, I been busy with illness and the furnace installation. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:51 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Addison
I notice you didn't respond to this - the discussion on your claim that the end of fossil fuels will mean the end of the fight against world hunger (below). You have to do some studying Greg, you've got this all wrong... So here's a bit more for you. http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Wee

RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-28 Thread Juan Boveda
ROTECTED] Sent: 02/24/2005 1:28 PM For:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science [snip] I think that I explained it a little better above.Perhaps a little more: In order to sequester 200 yrs of CO2, I thing that extreme measures will have to be

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-24 Thread Keith Addison
I'll snip most of this... Couple of points: I've never heard anyone but you proposing that we need to sequester the last 200 years of human carbon emissions. > >OTOH, I am sure, that there is currently a disturbing > >trend, that needs to be delt with, be it short term or long term. > > D

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-24 Thread Keith Addison
Best wishes Keith An important point which often gets missed is that we are adding to the atmosphere gases of known properties: they cause the atmosphere to retain heat. And, if the atmosphere didn't already contain gases which retain heat, the Earth would be very much colder than it is. T

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-24 Thread Greg Harbican
Sorry for not getting back sooner, it's been a little hectic in the last couple of days. - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:10 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- noth

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 07:29 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science I am keeping the perspective, the carbon was around in one fo

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread dwoodard
An important point which often gets missed is that we are adding to the atmosphere gases of known properties: they cause the atmosphere to retain heat. And, if the atmosphere didn't already contain gases which retain heat, the Earth would be very much colder than it is. There are many secondary

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 07:29 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science > > In one form or another yes, but which form, and for how

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Keith Addison
r of peat is > > burned away, it can no longer insulate the permafrost lower down, once the > > permafrost melts, the peat in those layers is subject to decay, and it > > release's more CO2 while decaying, for months even years after the fire has > > occurred. > >

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Harbican
n hope for is a slowed rate increase in atmospheric CO2 and other greenhouse gasses. Greg H. - Original Message - From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 19:09 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of c

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-23 Thread bob allen
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:18 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D) wrote: Sorry Mike Actually most CO2 emissions come from Decomposing Plant material. That is immat

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread Greg Harbican
teady state. > Anthropogenic emissions are above and beyond natural emissions. - Original Message - From: "Ken Provost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:31 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/j

RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Redler
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Redler Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hi Mark, You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science" ...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread Ken Provost
On Feb 22, 2005, at 9:32 AM, Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D) wrote: Sorry Mike Actually most CO2 emissions come from Decomposing Plant material. It is amazing what pointing out simple "Off subject" issues in a post will do. Decomposing plant material is carbon-neutral, of course, and therefo

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread bob allen
nt: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hi Mark, You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science" ...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our civilization comes from the bur

RE: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-22 Thread
nt: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science Hi Mark, You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science" ...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our civilization comes from the bur

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto- nothing but a buch of crap/junk science

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Redler
Hi Mark, You said: "Kyoto is based on mostly Junk Science" ...tell ya what Mark -- Since most of the emissions from our civilization comes from the burning of fossil fuels, here's a little experiment you can do at home. 1.) Get yourself a chain saw and bring it with you into your bathroom 2