Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-12 Thread Doug Younker
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>- Original Message - > >>From: "rich" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-12 Thread Keith Addison
Ump... Twice? Sorry! :-/ Keith ... and then there's all this: http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/top100.html Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the Decade by Russell Mokhiber Introduction ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org h

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-12 Thread Brian Rodgers
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Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-12 Thread Keith Addison
... and then there's all this: http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/top100.html Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the Decade by Russell Mokhiber Introduction Top 100 Corporate Criminals -- Brief List Top 100 Corporate Criminals -- Annotated Version http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/07_02_03_pr

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-12 Thread Keith Addison
... and then there's all this: http://www.corporatecrimereporter.com/top100.html Top 100 Corporate Criminals of the Decade by Russell Mokhiber Introduction Top 100 Corporate Criminals -- Brief List Top 100 Corporate Criminals -- Annotated Version Check this out: "For Richer", by Paul Krugman (8

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread marilyn
I googled "seed savers" and got 13,000 sites. This looks especially good: http://www.seedsavers.org/ Seed Savers Exchange is a nonprofit organization that saves and shares the heirloom seeds of our garden heritage, forming a living legacy that can be passed down through generations. When peopl

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
er [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thu 8/11/2005 12:29 PM *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Cc:* *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Great. Not only do I have get rid of a gallon of RoundUp but now I have to REBALANCE my stock portfolio. Nuts. Anyone

RE: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mel Riser
Title: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism if you buy a copy of Mother Jones magazine, there a lot's of funds that buy according to environmental wishes.   Lot's of ads in the latest issue.   mel -Original Message- From: Mike Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 8/11/

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Garth & Kim Travis
Greetings, It is difficult to decide where to invest today and not feel that your money is supporting your enemies. If you invest in yourself first, you can be a good example of how to live gently on Mother Earth. Make sure you are living sustainably and eating healthy, local, naturally gro

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Weaver
Great. Not only do I have get rid of a gallon of RoundUp but now I have to REBALANCE my stock portfolio. Nuts. Anyone know about socially responsible investing funds? -Mike Keith Addison wrote: rich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do this! While the comment below may be technica

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-11 Thread Keith Addison
rich wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do this! While the comment below may be technically correct, there aren't 'enough' of us to do this and buying shares only encourages Monsanto to keep it up. IMHO our energies and monies are better spent trying to expose the lies, hidden agendas,

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-10 Thread Keith Addison
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "rich" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-10 Thread Gavin Wheeler
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 23:11, rich wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > >Hi Rich- I believe grass roots seed banks and seed exchanges already > > exist. [...] > Where would I find such seed banks? Any online references? In the UK, at least, one of the better known heritage seed librarie

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Weaver
*From:* Guag Meister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tue, 09 Aug 2005 05:46:26 -0300 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Hi Keith and Doug and All ; Respectfully, you are absolutely correct that you can still by seeds that are

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Potential solution: Maybe create a non-proprietary seed bank? Hi Rich- I believe

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread rich
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't do this! While the comment below may be technically correct, there aren't 'enough' of us to do this and buying shares only encourages Monsanto to keep it up. IMHO our energies and monies are better spent trying to expose the lies, hidden agendas, and environme

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi Rich,   I can't help you there. I'm not a lawyer and I haven't bought my farm yet. I'm still doing my research on JTF.   Sorry,   Tom Irwin   From: rich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 12:16:24 -0300Subject: Re: [Bio

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Doug Younker
- Original Message - From: "rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism > Potential solution: Maybe create a non-proprietary seed bank? Hi Rich- I believe grass roots seed banks and seed exchanges alr

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread rich
can the Ag. producer survive with the yields heritage seeds provide? I'm fairly certain large scale food production will be with us for quite some time yet. Later... Doug, N0LKK - Original Message - From: "Guag Meister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09,

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Doug Younker
ields heritage seeds provide? I'm fairly certain large scale food production will be with us for quite some time yet. Later... Doug, N0LKK - Original Message - From: "Guag Meister" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel]

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Joe Street
Don't do this! While the comment below may be technically correct, there aren't 'enough' of us to do this and buying shares only encourages Monsanto to keep it up. IMHO our energies and monies are better spent trying to expose the lies, hidden agendas, and environmentally unsound practices th

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread rich
PROTECTED] *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tue, 09 Aug 2005 05:46:26 -0300 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Hi Keith and Doug and All ; Respectfully, you are absolutely correct that you can still by seeds that are "heirloom". This is the p

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Mike Weaver
:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tue, 09 Aug 2005 05:46:26 -0300 *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Hi Keith and Doug and All ; Respectfully, you are absolutely correct that you can still by seeds that are "heirloom". This is the present time. What is frighten

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Tom Irwin
Hi all,   IMHO you get together with other Heirloom farmers and sue the seed companies first for contaminating your stock of unmodifed seeds. Make it a big class action suit. Find a hardass lawyer who will persue it with righteous vengence and bring these corporations to their knees. Remember i

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-09 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith and Doug and All ; Respectfully, you are absolutely correct that you can still by seeds that are "heirloom". This is the present time. What is frightening is the direction that the planet is headed. How long before these "heirloom" seed suppliers are bought by the agro giants? How lon

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread Doug Younker
; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism > Yes Monsanto and others have used absolutely dispicable tactics against some U.S. and Canadian farmers > who found some of their gm plants on their land. I also understand that th

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread capt3d
no doubt, eventually, one of their gmo's will have the 'accidental' side effect of respiring a specific isotope of oxygen, thus enabling monsanto to hold patent rights on any unit of atmosphere in which this isotope is found. . . . -chris b. In a message dated 8/8/05 12:35:20 PM, [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread rich
so farmers have to buy a new batch of seeds each year from ...guess who? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Richard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Sent: 08 Aug '05 18:34 Monsanto is a prime player in predatory, monopolistic practices, tryi

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread Keith Addison
batch of seeds each year from ...guess who? regards tallex ---Original Message--- From: Richard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Sent: 08 Aug '05 18:34 Monsanto is a prime player in predatory, monopolistic practices, trying to pass laws to "loc

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread Mike Weaver
ubject: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism Sent: 08 Aug '05 18:34 Monsanto is a prime player in predatory, monopolistic practices, trying to pass laws to "lock the little guy out". Check out http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=343. If Monsanto has its way, we will have to pay royalties to d

Re: [Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Alternative_Energy_Politics/ Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- > From: Richard B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Biofuel] Seed terr

[Biofuel] Seed terrorism

2005-08-08 Thread Richard B
Monsanto is a prime player in predatory, monopolistic practices, trying to pass laws to "lock the little guy out". Check out http://www.grain.org/seedling/?id=343. If Monsanto has its way, we will have to pay royalties to do anything with seeds, including growing plants to produce biofuels.