Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-12 Thread murdoch
>>I see a problem here that I did not see before. The term "cracker", >>which is what hackers are recommending we use when we wish to connote >>"hacker gone to the dark side" or some such, has some slight built-in >>vernacular ambiguities. Is one talking about a safe cracker? Is one >>trying to

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-12 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM > >There you go - a hacker in sheeple's clothing, LOL! You're certainly > >no slave, MM. I wonder if the real slaves aren't the people at the > >top of the ladder, the ones who think they're in control - such as > >Kenneth Lay, hopeless failures at life, what a waste. > >thx, and an interes

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-12 Thread Kim & Garth Travis
see inserted comments murdoch wrote: > I see a problem here that I did not see before. The term "cracker", > which is what hackers are recommending we use when we wish to connote > "hacker gone to the dark side" or some such, has some slight built-in > vernacular ambiguities. TLC had a pro

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-11 Thread murdoch
>There you go - a hacker in sheeple's clothing, LOL! You're certainly >no slave, MM. I wonder if the real slaves aren't the people at the >top of the ladder, the ones who think they're in control - such as >Kenneth Lay, hopeless failures at life, what a waste. thx, and an interesting take on L

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-11 Thread Keith Addison
> >it isn't "everyone", not by a very long way, nor ever will be. When > >you have a closer look, maybe it's not quite like that even with the > >"slaves". Some people talk of "sheeple". Fine critters, sheep, and > >not that dumb either (Judas goats notwithstanding). I always find > >that rather p

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-10 Thread murdoch
>it isn't "everyone", not by a very long way, nor ever will be. When >you have a closer look, maybe it's not quite like that even with the >"slaves". Some people talk of "sheeple". Fine critters, sheep, and >not that dumb either (Judas goats notwithstanding). I always find >that rather patroni

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
>On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: > > > The powers-that-be aren't nearly as all-powerful as they try to tell > > us. Plenty of spreading cracks in their concrete. > >Their single greatest weakness is extreme short-sightedness. >It's bad for everyone else too, of cour

Re: [biofuel] The big picture

2002-12-09 Thread Ken Provost
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 11:41 AM, Keith Addison wrote: > The powers-that-be aren't nearly as all-powerful as they try to tell > us. Plenty of spreading cracks in their concrete. Their single greatest weakness is extreme short-sightedness. It's bad for everyone else too, of course, but

Re: [biofuel] The big picture Was: Hackers - Virus protection

2002-12-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Curtis :-) I was hoping to prise you out of the woodwork, I just didn't realize it'd be you. I'm not too surprised. You're a fone phreak? Anyway, cheer up. A bit better than slaves, a bit worse too - but by any definition there are probably only a few hundred million of them, it isn't "e