Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-13 Thread Richard Gnyla
I am trying to make our application cross browser compatible and it's getting there but there are parts that you should test before implementing for example I found out the other day that Opera beta does not support (yet) the text ' hanging ' , ' mathematical ' etc... Also whats messing me up

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-13 Thread Jonathan Watt
On 4/13/06, Richard Gnyla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its getting there but how come Opera with such a small percentage of the > browser market can be ahead of Mozilla with SVG? What's market share got to do with being better? I thought the tradition is the more market share you have, the crap

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-13 Thread Richard Gnyla
I actually find Opera browser the worst browser to work with ( but have heard its the most strict when it comes to standards, so it should be the browser we all should get it working in ) With Firefox and IE on PC and Safari / Firefox I am having at least some joy but Opera. My theory

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-13 Thread Jeroen Vanattenhoven
Opera is the most brilliant browser there is. I've been using it from version 7. The GUI is somewhat difficult in the beginning, because you can configure practically everything about it. But after a short while it is a wonderful experience. It's also the fastest browser out there. It is incred

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-13 Thread Phi Tran
On 4/13/06, Jeff Schiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, "domenico_strazzullo" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > OT but somehow related: I don't know how long the updated svg page > > at Adobe has been on, but it states "Adobe has taken a leadership > >

RE: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-15 Thread Michael Bierman
_ From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Neumann Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 5:51 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial * My theory is that no one uses it in the real world, Ive ne

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-16 Thread Richard Gnyla
I don't mean to say Opera is useless by any means but: Michael said 2. Testing every browser is simply cost prohibitive. This is a good point as why spend all that time trying to get it working in Opera when the market share is so low. I read interestingly this week that the Google Calendar Be

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-16 Thread ddailey
> If Google haven't got the time to get it to work with Opera, then should > the rest of us start implementing hacks to get it working? Its bad enough > getting SVG apps working in IE/ Firefox ? Safari. > > Two other thoughts on the subject: 1. Opera is the only browser other than IE/ASV to do

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-16 Thread guy
Has anyone compiled a "how-to" for making your SVG app work in Opera? Mine works in FF and ASV, but I only get a fragment of it displayed in opera, and without any error messages it's kinda hard to know what opera doesn't like about it... Guy Quoting ddailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> If Google

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread David Dailey
At 08:28 PM 4/16/2006, Guy wrote: >Has anyone compiled a "how-to" for making your SVG app work in Opera? >Mine works >in FF and ASV, but I only get a fragment of it displayed in opera, and without >any error messages it's kinda hard to know what opera doesn't like about it... The only troubles I'v

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Phi Tran
I Use Opera 8.54 then. Tools->Delete private data .. --> Advanced (select delete catch) ... Then restart the browser. (It work for me). Phi On 4/17/06, David Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 08:28 PM 4/16/2006, Guy wrote: > >Has anyone compiled a "how-to" for making your SVG app work in

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Richard Gnyla
Ive almost given up on Opera until the Final release to see if worth trying to sort out, theres no hanging or mathematical text and until Opera does this then I wont bother as our app depends on text being displayed properly in this manner. Also I am having problem with accessing SVG ID element

RE: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Richard- Richard Gnyla wrote: | | Ive almost given up on Opera until the Final release to see if worth | trying to sort out, theres no hanging or mathematical text and until | Opera does this then I wont bother as our app depends on text being | displayed properly in this manner. In my op

RE: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi- For those of you who have not yet tried to make cross-browser applications (or even simple SVGs), I encourage you to try it for yourself rather than rely on Francis' opinion. There are a few gotchas (most of which have workarounds) and some fetures that ASV supports that the others don't, but

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Richard Gnyla
Martin Hi, I think I have already posted this problem but not sure whether its me or Opera but in the debug of Opera it did say something like that the value was Null? http://www.eventex.co.uk/compatible/index.aspx The top functions work for zoom plus/ minus pan and extents so it is finding t

Re: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-17 Thread Richard Gnyla
Hi Francis I agree with what your saying but I do have a problem and my fellow developers / designers will agree. I may need to see a doctor about this but my problem is that I am mainly a designer and ideas man (my previous job was to come up with innovative ideas before setting up my own com

RE: [svg-developers] Re: An SVG Tutorial

2006-04-18 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Richard- I think that you misdiagnosed the problem you were having. The element was being found, but Opera was not delivering the string you expected when you used getAttribute to acquire its points. Opera9 has a bug (which I've reported to their bugtracker and talked about with their develop