Re: [swinog] Huge retry delays in mail from Sunrise

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Michael Naef
On Tuesday 27. March 2007, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: hi, Hi Stan We use the email greylisting policy for incoming email for us and our customers, and it appears that often the email from Sunrise network comes with huge delays, from several hours to several days. Yeah greylisting... :-)

Re: [swinog] Huge retry delays in mail from Sunrise

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: We use the email greylisting policy for incoming email for us and our customers, and it appears that often the email from Sunrise network comes with huge delays, from several hours to several days. Did anyone else see such problems? Guys from Sunrise, plase

RE: [swinog] Huge retry delays in mail from Sunrise

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Kurt A. Schumacher
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: We use the email greylisting policy for incoming email for us and our customers, and it appears that often the email from Sunrise network comes with huge delays, from several hours to several days. Did anyone else see such problems? Guys from Sunrise, plase

RE: [swinog] Huge retry delays in mail from Sunrise

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
--- Kurt A. Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a guess: The more retries to a certain SMTP destination, the longer the retry interval...leads to exponential delivery times. no, it's quite sporadic: some emails are retried wihtin 10 minutes, and some were delaying for hours. Pure

[swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Radek Mrskos
What about a whitelist website, every ISP could enter the IPs of his MTA's and everybody could use for his whitelisting? Radek MrskosEmail[EMAIL PROTECTED] volume.ch Tel:+41 43 534 40 24 Baechlerstr. 12 Mob:+41 79 219 68 66 CH-8802 Kilchberg Fax:+41 86079 2196 866

Re: [swinog] Huge retry delays in mail from Sunrise

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Stanislav Sinyagin
--- Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why bother greylisting someone who you know will be retrying anyway? Just add the sunrise mail servers to your whitelist. of course I did. But I think it's better to resolve the problem at its source :) ___

Re: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Tobias Goeller
Hello, Given the fact that there are many ISPs who volontarily provide IP's for Spamming purposes this won't work. Given the fact that there are ISPs like T-Online, where SPAM IS a problem, this might fail. Sorry, but I don't think that this would work at all... CU Tobias Radek Mrskos wrote:

Re: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Benoit Panizzon
Am Dienstag, 27. März 2007 14.32 schrieb Radek Mrskos: What about a whitelist website, every ISP could enter the IPs of his MTA's and everybody could use for his whitelisting? s/ISP/spamer/g :-) But we already operate the SWINOG Whitelist for this purpose. Feel free to send us Mailserver

AW: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Radek Mrskos
Something like whitelist.swinog.ch - swinog controlled whitelist swiss ISP only -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tobias Goeller Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2007 14:38 An: swinog@swinog.ch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re:

Re: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Benoit Panizzon
Am Dienstag, 27. März 2007 14.49 schrieb Radek Mrskos: Something like whitelist.swinog.ch - swinog controlled whitelist swiss ISP only Of course, but you got the hostname wrong. It's http://dnswl.swinog.ch aka http://antispam.imp.ch/swinog-dnsrbl-whitelist But not only Swiss Mailservers,

Re: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Tobias Goeller
Well, In my point of view this makes about the same sense as if we'd take the decision to start up something like a new standard for inter-ISP-communications (ever thought about IPv7, maybe IPv7.25?) - for switzerland only. This would just move the source of the problem to another point - but

Re: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Tobias Goeller wrote: Well, In my point of view this makes about the same sense as if we'd take the decision to start up something like a new standard for inter-ISP-communications (ever thought about IPv7, maybe IPv7.25?) - for switzerland only. Actually, in .nl this is done. All the known

Re: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website

2007-03-27 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Leisi
Of course, but you got the hostname wrong. It's http://dnswl.swinog.ch aka http://antispam.imp.ch/swinog-dnsrbl-whitelist But not only Swiss Mailservers, this would be a bit useless :-) And of course there is also dnswl.org ;-) [Note that dnswl.org data also includes the Swinog whitelist,