Re: [swinog] Split-horizon addressing (Was: Experience with 6rd Hardware)

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : > On 2011-Jun-06 16:18, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: >> 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : >>> ULA would still require NAT66 if you want those hosts to be able to >>> communicate to the outside, unless of course you want to firewall your >>> internal machines based on the global prefix

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad
Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: > On 2011-Jun-06 15:55, Oliver Schad wrote: > > Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: > >> The only thing where it might not be compatible is the user > >> interface for making it easy to configure them. > > > > While I agree to your po

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guazzoni Daniele, CH
Get an ISP who can provide native IPv6 so you don't have to deal with "sort of IPv6" like 6rd. The layer-2 network can transport it, the DLSAM & Co. can handle it, so why 6rd and not a /48 (or whatever prefix size) ? My 2 cts... Daniele -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swi

[swinog] Split-horizon addressing (Was: Experience with 6rd Hardware)

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 16:18, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: > 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : >> ULA would still require NAT66 if you want those hosts to be able to >> communicate to the outside, unless of course you want to firewall your >> internal machines based on the global prefix and update those firewall >> r

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : > ULA would still require NAT66 if you want those hosts to be able to > communicate to the outside, unless of course you want to firewall your > internal machines based on the global prefix and update those firewall > rules and all other dependencies all the time when your

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 16:03, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: > 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : >> On 2011-Jun-06 15:44, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: >>> 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : The fun and joy of 6rd is of course that your IPv6 prefix changes every time you get a new IPv4 address. With IPv4 and NAT this did

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : > On 2011-Jun-06 15:44, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: >> 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : >>> The fun and joy of 6rd is of course that your IPv6 prefix changes every >>> time you get a new IPv4 address. With IPv4 and NAT this did not matter >>> so much to the internal network, but now

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 15:55, Oliver Schad wrote: > Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: >> The only thing where it might not be compatible is the user interface >> for making it easy to configure them. > > While I agree to your point of view that 6rd and 6to4 are very close to > each other

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad
Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: > The only thing where it might not be compatible is the user interface > for making it easy to configure them. While I agree to your point of view that 6rd and 6to4 are very close to each other and it shoudln't take much time to implement all nec

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 15:44, Guillaume Leclanche wrote: > 2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : >> The fun and joy of 6rd is of course that your IPv6 prefix changes every >> time you get a new IPv4 address. With IPv4 and NAT this did not matter >> so much to the internal network, but now when your IP address changes >

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2011/6/6 Jeroen Massar : > The fun and joy of 6rd is of course that your IPv6 prefix changes every > time you get a new IPv4 address. With IPv4 and NAT this did not matter > so much to the internal network, but now when your IP address changes > you need to renumber your home network, the joys of t

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 14:38, Oliver Schad wrote: > Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: >> On 2011-Jun-06 14:17, Oliver Schad wrote: >>> Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Adrian Kägi: Thx for your replies! Wow! I see, there are tons of vendors! But when they support IPv6 or 6t

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad
Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Jeroen Massar: > On 2011-Jun-06 14:17, Oliver Schad wrote: > > Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Adrian Kägi: > >> Thx for your replies! Wow! > >> I see, there are tons of vendors! > >> But when they support IPv6 or 6to4 IP6 Tunnel and so on... does they > >> sup

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
On 6 Jun 2011, at 13:48, Adrian Kägi wrote: > Hy list > > Thx for your replies! Wow! > I see, there are tons of vendors! > But when they support IPv6 or 6to4 IP6 Tunnel and so on... does they support > the 6rd concept? Not necessarily. IMHO it's the same encapsulation (type 41, which has to be

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2011-Jun-06 14:17, Oliver Schad wrote: > Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Adrian Kägi: >> Thx for your replies! Wow! >> I see, there are tons of vendors! >> But when they support IPv6 or 6to4 IP6 Tunnel and so on... does they >> support the 6rd concept? > > 6to4 and 6rd are not the same and a

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad
Am Monday 06 June 2011 schrieb mir Adrian Kägi: > Thx for your replies! Wow! > I see, there are tons of vendors! > But when they support IPv6 or 6to4 IP6 Tunnel and so on... does they > support the 6rd concept? 6to4 and 6rd are not the same and are not compatible. 6to4 has a given prefix while 6r

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Kägi
Hy list Thx for your replies! Wow! I see, there are tons of vendors! But when they support IPv6 or 6to4 IP6 Tunnel and so on... does they support the 6rd concept? Cheers Adrian -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftr

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Guillaume Leclanche
2011/6/6 Adrian Kägi : > > Im looking for H/W like Netgear,Linksys and so on... > A Linux router would do the job. 6rd is supported since 2.6.33. So probably any openwrt-based router would support it as well. Guillaume ___ swinog mailing list swinog@l

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Steven.Glogger
hi adrian maybe this helps: http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ipv6-cpe-surveys greetings -steven -Original Message- From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Adrian Kägi Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:58 AM To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Sub

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Kägi
Hi OK, the Cisco 800 router is a device for power users... :-) But im really interested about configuration! Im looking for H/W like Netgear,Linksys and so on... Netgear cust. support answered with: Not implemented here... :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.c

Re: [swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
Hi If you count Cisco 800 Series routers to SOHO hardware … It works with the latest IOS (15.1(4)M) I'm currently running it at home[1] via Swisscom VDSL (without issues so far except some firewall stuff, but nothing serious). If you're interested I'll share the relevant configuration. Chee

[swinog] Experience with 6rd Hardware

2011-06-06 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Kägi
Hy List Does anybody have experience with 6rd capable soho hardware? Which manufacturer does already support 6rd? E.g. Fritzbox... Freundliche Grüsse Adrian Kägi System Engineering Teamleiter ZAPP AG Bahnhofstr. 28, 3076 Worb Telefon +41 31 710 34 23 Fax +41 31 710 34 25 adrian.ka...@media