Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-27 Diskussionsfäden Marcel Prisi
] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 10:02 An: studer.patr...@gmx.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Dear Patrick, We have been using PC based (HP servers + SSD) Vyatta routers for some time, they work extremely well at the fraction of the price of Cisco gear

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-24 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
** Von: Andreas Fink [mailto:af...@list.fink.org] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. September 2009 15:04 An: Patrick Studer Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements off the list. On 23.09.2009, at 13:41, Patrick Studer wrote: Hallo Andreas Wenn ich Dich richtig verstehe, dann

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-23 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
, 22. September 2009 12:48 An: 'Patrick Studer' Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hi Patrick If you are planning full tables and want to grow to +100Mbps don't take 28xx platform. What is neat is ASR1002 I tested it and recommend it. They have a 2.5G box now that is also

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-23 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Fax+41 61 315 85 59 ** Von: Andreas Fink [mailto:af...@list.fink.org] Gesendet: Montag, 21. September 2009 13:37 An: Patrick Studer Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hallo Patrick, Wir

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Fax+41 61 315 85 59 ** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Daniel Aubry [mailto:o...@chaostreff.ch] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. September 2009 15:07 An: Patrick Studer Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 23:08 An: Patrick Studer Betreff: AW: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hoi Dann würde mir so spontan ColoBâle in den Sinn kommen :) Gruss Reto -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Patrick Studer [mailto:p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernd SPIESS [mailto:bernd.spi...@ascus.at] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 20:15 An: 'Patrick Studer' Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements yes - its a good box - but think that a new one

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernd SPIESS [mailto:bernd.spi...@ascus.at] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 20:15 An: 'Patrick Studer' Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements yes - its a good box - but think that a new one will cost about

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: [..] However, IMHO DDoS attacks are just like spam, nobody can really pretend being able to stop them as of today. There is a semi-partial solution which will cost you some cash, like every other 'solution': anycast your network. (Thus you are doing your own ISP and in

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Jeoren, Anycast is an option, but as you said expensive, but worst than that, complex to maintain. On top of that, it requires skilled boys and their salaries will go up quite quickly or you leave some company to do it for you at a price, you probably do not want to afford, when you are a normal

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: Jeoren, Anycast is an option, but as you said expensive, but worst than that, complex to maintain. On top of that, it requires skilled boys and their salaries will go up quite quickly or you leave some company to do it for you at a price, you probably do not want to

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
I wasn't giving any advices to you, obviously you don't need them ;) Other, I know we are a bit off-topic, sorry, but it's interesting topic, isn't? If you don't piss somebody or make them jealous they won't have a need to attack you either. Yes. However, sometimes you don't have the choice.

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-18 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Alexandre Egger wrote: I wasn't giving any advices to you, obviously you don't need them ;) Other, I know we are a bit off-topic, sorry, but it's interesting topic, isn't? Especially with the view that there are possibilities that ISPs get threatened and take hosted sites offline, discussing

[swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden studer . patrick
Hi We are planning to go multihomed with our infrastructure. The first step will be, to have 10 Mbit/s fixed or 100 Mbit/s burstable service with an additional link to SwissIX where we want to do some privat peerings. In a second step, we will add a second or a third upstream with about the

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements it depends do you want to survive a ddos or not? with 100 mbit link speed a 2811 will die for 100% when you receive a dos/ddos in your direction 256 mb ram will also be to less for multihoming if you want to have one or two full routing

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Prisi [mailto:marcel.pr...@virtua.ch] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 10:02 An: studer.patr...@gmx.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Dear Patrick, We have been using PC based (HP servers + SSD) Vyatta routers for some time, they work extremely well

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Matthias Hertzog [mailto:m.hert...@mhs.ch] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 10:10 An: p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Sali

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Pascal Gloor
Hi Patrick, The first step will be, to have 10 Mbit/s fixed or 100 Mbit/s burstable service with an additional link to SwissIX where we want to do some privat peerings. In a second step, we will add a second or a third upstream with about the same speeds as the first connection. All

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
, 17. September 2009 10:41 An: studer.patr...@gmx.ch Cc: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch' Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hi Patrick, The first step will be, to have 10 Mbit/s fixed or 100 Mbit/s burstable service with an additional link to SwissIX where we want to do some

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Peter Kohler [mailto:peter.koh...@netcetera.ch] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 11:22 An: studer.patr...@gmx.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hi Patrick

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Patrick Studer Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:17 AM To: 'Pascal Gloor' Cc: 'swinog@lists.swinog.ch' Subject: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hi Pascale That's an answer I was looking for. Some more questions. Why you suggest the SP Service IOS? What's

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Paolo Lucente
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:42:51AM +0200, Bernd SPIESS wrote: you have to basicaly decide if you want a cpu driven box (28*, 38*, NPE-G1/G2) or a hardware driven box (sup32, sup720, c-120**) in the first case you have to primary look for the cpu performance - in the second case you have

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Steinmann [mailto:st...@stony.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 10:40 An: studer.patr...@gmx.ch Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hoi Patrick Ich würde schwer empfehlen, etwas grösseres reinzustellen. Erstens wächst die BGP-Tabelle unaufhörlich, zweitens steigt der

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements see here: http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/downloads/765/tools/quickreference/routerperformance.pdf 3725 = 179 mbit 3745 = 256 mbit (best case calculated with 64 byte paket size) you have to basicaly decide if you want a cpu driven box (28*, 38

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
: Reto Burkhalter [mailto:reto.burkhal...@basis06.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 14:26 An: Patrick Studer Betreff: AW: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hoi Patrick Dann empfehle ich an dieser Stelle doch mal die colozüri.ch - genügend Carriers und ISPs vorhanden

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
. September 2009 16:10 An: p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements Hoi Patrick, ich personlich wurde nicht mit einer kleinen Cisco 2811 oder dergleichen anfangen. Mit vollem RAM-Ausbau bekommst Du dort hoechstwahrscheinlich nur 1x Full Table rein und hast

Re: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements

2009-09-17 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
** -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernd SPIESS [mailto:bernd.spi...@ascus.at] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 14:02 An: 'Patrick Studer' Betreff: RE: [swinog] Full BGP Routing Router Requirements ipv6 is running fine also on 28 plattform asn32 - no practical info