Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Nik Hug
Good Morning [..] It is a general thing. I would have thought swiss ISPs buying a bit more selective based on rtt and peering being local or close by. Disclaimers apply left and right, for you know who I am etc. But I am really surprised, believe it or not. yes we do care about rtt - but we

AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Mike Kellenberger
Skype mikek70atwork -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Nik Hug Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 08:26 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Good Morning [..] It is a general

AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Mike Kellenberger
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Mike Kellenberger Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2006 08:37 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Hey cool, my packets to our server at init7 as a cablecom customer travel from

Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Hertzog
: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Hey cool, my packets to our server at init7 as a cablecom customer travel from winterthur over half europe to zürich now :-( Tracing route to r1escape.cpe.init7.net [82.197.163.110] over a maximum of 30 hops: 11 ms1 ms1 ms 192.168.10.1 2 *7

Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexander Koch
On Fri, 22 September 2006 08:36:41 +0200, Mike Kellenberger wrote: 844 ms41 ms57 ms fr-par03a-ra1-ge-0-0-0_0.aorta.net [213.46.163.90] Fancy rev DNS entry btw... :) I am surprised it shows 'correctly' even. -ako ___ swinog mailing

Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexander Koch
On Fri, 22 September 2006 15:07:16 +0200, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: We're not receiveing a route for that network although we're buying transit from AS1299: It is an exchange, likely that is why. Anyway, what you write shows DECIX - Init7 Zurich is 8ms or so, and Aorta is 12ms, while it was

Re: AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Daniel Kamm
On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 15:07 +0200, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: Some performance measurements from Frankfurt: Back to our studies, we tried to implement a system, that periodically stores traceroutes from looking glass servers to some other endpoints. The main goal was to display a map which shows

Re: AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Daniel Kamm wrote: On Fri, 2006-09-22 at 15:07 +0200, Gunther Stammwitz wrote: Some performance measurements from Frankfurt: Back to our studies, we tried to implement a system, that periodically stores traceroutes from looking glass servers to some other endpoints. The main goal was to

AW: AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-22 Diskussionsfäden Gunther Stammwitz
Hello Jeroen, Very good hint. I've always been trying to measure performance to deutsche telekom but they don't really offer test-locations. With the TTM-boxes one can do that. We have just ordered ours and it should be operational within the next 4 weeks. The TTM-project is a really good tool

[swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Anyone else with problems to reach the Sunrise backbone? We saw an high latency between Verizon Business (702) and Sunrise and after rerouting via Telia (1299) the latency remained between in the Level3 (3356) Backbone. TTL LFT trace to business.sunrise.ch (195.141.106.101):80/tcp 1

AW: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
Greetings Xaver -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Fredy Kuenzler Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. September 2006 20:49 An: swinog@swinog.ch Betreff: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Anyone else with problems to reach the Sunrise backbone? We

RE: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger
PM To: swinog@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] Sunrise network issues? Anyone else with problems to reach the Sunrise backbone? We saw an high latency between Verizon Business (702) and Sunrise and after rerouting via Telia (1299) the latency remained between in the Level3 (3356) Backbone. TTL

Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Nik Hug
cablecom nervt: marzili:~# traceroute www.nts.ch traceroute to www.nts.ch (212.103.67.8), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 3.551 ms 3.712 ms 2.639 ms 2 10.163.128.1 (10.163.128.1) 10.812 ms 11.113 ms 9.909 ms 3 ch-gva01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net (213.46.171.53)

Re: [swinog] Sunrise network issues?

2006-09-21 Diskussionsfäden Alexander Koch
Folks, when you study the traceroutes you see some ISPs have 8ms from Zürich to Frankfurt, some Nordic operator has 12ms for example. Still you (Fredy) and others seem to buy from them. Why? What would be the route from that operator to Interbusiness or Milan in general - I would be seriously