>
> > You can't expect someone to shell out $1,000,000 or so making a new
> > translation, and then giving it away for free can you?
>
> That depends entirely on your purpose. If your purpose was spreading the
> Gospel, you certainly can be expected to ``throw away'' $1,000,000.00+.
> Certainly, J
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> On Sunday 16 December 2001 19:47, Chris wrote:
> > Maybe there would be various teams
>
>
>What about making money off of truth is wrong?
>
I think the point is not that there is a problem _making_ money from
things spiritual. The problem is related to _charging_ money for things
spiritual. Because when you charge, that implies some people will be
excluded based on income. That's
>Fast food Bible style. Have it your way! Interpretation by feel good
>demographic preferences.
>
Why should it be that different styles of interpretation must equate to
"feel good" ??
>Heck lets vote on interpretation already! This is
>s slipery a slope.
>
People already choose their tran
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Hi!
> How does this relate to Sword? Well, Sword is currently available to
> C++ programs. There should be alternate interfaces for other tools. A
> simple command line tool to quote a verse by reference or output a
> concordance like list of references given a search key would be handy
> for
With all the off topic discussion, I've forgotten where to post this
stuff...
New driver for reading/writing compressed lexicons/dictionaries is in
the source tree. zLD is the driver name. I just got things to
compile. Too tired to test. Let me know if you look at it.
-Troy.
PS.
I notice that if you increase the font to
improve visibility, it doesn't extend to
the search dialog. This is a problem if you
need the bigger font in order to read it.
>
> > Depends what you mean by "reject". If someone wrongly believes that
> > Genesis creation is
> > some kind of metaphor or abstract description, it's not really a
> > salvation issue is it? Nor
> > is it profitable to try and force everyone else to believe your point of
> > view, (which could
I just noticed that in the search dialog of Win
version, I am able to click the verse reference
and edit it like a text field! That can't be right.
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> >
> >
> >What about making money off of truth is wrong?
> >
> I think the p
Hi all,
I'm new to the SWORD project, but a friend of mine (Timothy Butler) introduced me to
it, and I've been hooked since. :)
I'm just letting you all know I'm here, and that the sort of thing I'd like to do is
help test new versions for Windows. To that effect, approximately how often do ne
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>
> >Fast food Bible style. Have it your way! Interpretation by feel good
> >demographic prefe
>
>
>Nope, translations will exist, and lots is good. The problem you present me
>with your notion is that I cant get a handle on it with accurate criticism.
>I have to tell you what rabbit trail to run down first, and then you just
>blame it on my combination of texts and throw your hands in the
Hello,
Just a few cents worth of opinion:
First off, a statement was made about a week ago that the only reason
capitalism worked better than socialism is because of man's sinfulness.
I beg to differ and believe almost the opposite to be true.
First off, if we are going to discuss capitalism a
>No it means they need to find other resources, or it needs to matter enough
>that they make the sacrifice to buy them, borrow them, or ask for donations.
>
On that theory they should charge $50 to get into church, and it should
"matter enough" to the members
to make the sacrifice.
>There are f
On Thursday 20 December 2001 16:29, Michael Rempel wrote:
> What is intrinsic to business that makes it unspiritual?
No.
What I mean by that is: I did not say that business was unspiritual. You can
climb down off that hobbyhorse now.
What I did say was that running a business *as*a*purpose* co
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 15:48, Chris Little wrote:
> Been there. Done that. :) But apparently we haven't promoted it
> enough, possibly because screenshots of term windows don't look
> cool on a webpage. :)
Use a different term then. eTerm, for example, is easy to make look cool.
I remem
On Thursday 20 December 2001 03:49, Barry Drake wrote:
> at risk of being off topic - are you saying that you can't
> believe in evolution AND be a Christian?
That depends on how long it takes you to run concepts through to their
logical conclusions. In other words, it's a temporary state (but w
On Thursday 20 December 2001 02:16, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
>> RMS has abruptly ceased conversing with
>> me and with a number of other individuals at various times at the point
>> of discovering that the conversee was a serious Christian, and more
>> particularly a creationist.
> Mind if I ask
> Single translation line texts dont have that problem. I can say that the
> Living Bible is less than scholarly, and show you why, but your notion
> leaves no way of saying much of anything. If you cant fix the text when it
> is wrong, or badly interpreted it is a bad idea. Now do you see the s
I have often compared Stallman to socialism. While I think there are
practical benefits to the O.S. movement, I believe their is an ideology or
better a philosophy that tends to undergird it which is unbiblical, that is,
to own something is wrong. The socialist view is very analogous to an ant
c
A Christian loves the truth but can be ignorant. When he sees the truth he
will embrace it. So while I believe a person can be converted still
believing in evolution that when confronted with the truth he will embrace
the truth.
One of the very most foundational aspects of Christianity is that
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 02:14, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>
> This did not compile in 1.5.2 - complained the UnicodeRTF::UnicodeRTF(void)
> was not in the library. I updated my spec file to patch
> src/modules/filters/Makefile to add the line
>
> cpp += unicodertf.cpp
Thanks. That helped me get m
Hi,
> I have often compared Stallman to socialism. While I think there are
> practical benefits to the O.S. movement, I believe their is an ideology or
> better a philosophy that tends to undergird it which is unbiblical, that
> is, to own something is wrong. The socialist view is very analogous
At 09:13 AM 12/20/2001 -0800, John Gardner wrote:
>No matter how often or how long or violently
>you shake a bucket of bolts you'll NEVER get a car!
In fact, the longer you shake them the _less_ chance you have of ever
getting a car, because they will grind themselves to powder if they don't
be
> On the other hand you cant have the Torah scroll at my
> Messianic Synagogue for any price and you would have a hard
> time getting your hands on one at any price if you wanted
> one. Jewish scroll dealers dont sell to non-Jews, they dont
> sell to Messianic Jews either, but we have our sou
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 09:26, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> I agree, but I might point out I think you are referring to the "free
> software movement." The open source movement smells a lot less socialist
> (yest there is a difference between the two). A friend of mine pointed out
> recently seve
> With all the off topic discussion, I've forgotten where to
> post this stuff...
>
>
> New driver for reading/writing compressed
> lexicons/dictionaries is in the source tree. zLD is the
> driver name. I just got things to compile. Too tired to
> test. Let me know if you look at it.
T
> I was able to do your search as specified above with:
>
> ->./diatheke -b KJV -s multiword -k light
>
> Except I could not figure out how to limit it to just genesis.
It's not capable of that, but I will add it to the todo list for the
next release.
--Chris
I know that we're not missing the main idea but I can't resist...
What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic or
advanced) will be working on, Windows of Linux? Clearly, today, it's
Windows. I don't see this changing too much in the near future and wouldn't
develop for som
Is there a way to turn off the verse address output (i.e. "I John 1:1:")
so it's just the text?
Also, how the heck do you pronounce diatheke?
/mike
--
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Humility is th
Hello,
first: thanks for this great project! I'm primarily using FreeBSD, so I
created FreeBSD 'ports' (http://www.freebsd.org/ports/) of sword,
sword-modules and cheatah. It's a bit like an rpm or deb, but in this case
for FreeBSD. I thought you might like to hear this.
- Willem van Engen
> Is there a way to turn off the verse address output (i.e. "I
> John 1:1:") so it's just the text?
Not in the program, but I'll add it. You could, run it through the
regex "s/^.+\d+:\d+: //" if you're using a scripting language that
supports them. (Swap [0-9] for \d if your regex doesn't supp
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 11:20, Lutz, Tom wrote:
> I know that we're not missing the main idea but I can't resist...
>
> What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic or
> advanced) will be working on, Windows of Linux? Clearly, today, it's
> Windows. I don't see this changing
Tom -
> > What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic or
> > advanced) will be working on, Windows of Linux? Clearly, today, it's
> > Windows. I don't see this changing too much in the near future and
> > wouldn't develop for something other than Windows for Bible software
Hello William,
this is good news!
Did you have to alter the sources or did you just create binary packages? In
case you had to patch something we should include it in sword cvs.
Martin
P.S. I looked at the site, but didn't find it. I guess I must have done
something wrong.
> Hello,
>
> fi
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 23:18:40 +0100
"Martin Gruner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello William,
>
> this is good news!
> Did you have to alter the sources or did you just create binary
> packages? In case you had to patch something we should include it in
> sword cvs.
Not really; it compiles out-
On Thursday 20 December 2001 09:48, Leon Brooks wrote:
[snip]
>
> This is not completely OT because integrating a creationist (and
> necessarilyanti-evolutionist) commentary module into Sword's
> collection is a fabulous idea. As is a
> resolving-apparent-contradictions module.
>
What a splendid
On Thursday 20 December 2001 12:21, David Burry wrote:
> At 09:13 AM 12/20/2001 -0800, John Gardner wrote:
> >No matter how often or how long or violently
> >you shake a bucket of bolts you'll NEVER get a car!
>
> In fact, the longer you shake them the _less_ chance you have of
> ever getting a ca
On Thursday 20 December 2001 13:20, Lutz, Tom wrote:
> I know that we're not missing the main idea but I can't resist...
>
> What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic
> or advanced) will be working on, Windows of Linux? Clearly, today,
> it's Windows. I don't see this cha
I am a Java developer and am interested in helping. I read much of the
recent thread in the archive about the java port. I don't know any of
the current code so where would be a good place to start?
> >
> >
> >Nope, translations will exist, and lots is good. The problem you present
me
> >with your notion is that I cant get a handle on it with accurate
criticism.
> >I have to tell you what rabbit trail to run down first, and then you just
> >blame it on my combination of texts and throw your h
>
>
>The first is a claim to creation ex nihilo, the second
>the fulfilled prophecy. Other ancient books make creation claims, but all of
>them involve supernatural beings modifying pre-existent material.
>
Don't get me wrong. I'm not an apoligist for evolution - not at all.
But I can see where
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 19:45, James Stauffer wrote:
> I am a Java developer and am interested in helping. I read much of the
> recent thread in the archive about the java port. I don't know any of
> the current code so where would be a good place to start?
>
I don't know James. There's a lot
>
>
>While I think there are
>practical benefits to the O.S. movement, I believe their is an ideology or
>better a philosophy that tends to undergird it which is unbiblical,
>
So how do you feel about Acts 2:44, "All the believers were together
and had everything in common." ?
>that is,
>to ow
>What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic or
>advanced) will be working on, Windows of Linux?
>
In China, India, Mexico, who knows? We could see a big push on Linux
in these places because they don't like sending money out of the country,
but they like to look good intern
On Thu, 2001-12-20 at 16:42, Jerry Kreps wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2001 13:20, Lutz, Tom wrote:
> > I know that we're not missing the main idea but I can't resist...
> >
> > What do we think the main populace of Bible software users (basic
> > or advanced) will be working on, Windows of Lin
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