Re: [sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-16 Thread Rev. Michael Paul Johnson
At 17:37 16-01-03 -0600, Jimmie Houchin wrote: I have a question about the Sword license. From what I see the source code is GPL. In many instances I have no problem with the GPL. In general I have no problem with Sword being GPL. If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/inform

[sword-devel] PocketPC (non-linux)

2003-01-16 Thread Patrick Allen
Title: Message Hello,   Does anyone here have a PocketPC based version in the works?  I've been thinking about starting a project but see no need to reinvent the wheel.   Thanks! Patrick Allen[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Thanks for the info. I just subscribed to the jsword-devel list so I could find the cvs. Jimmie Houchin Joe Walker wrote: www.crosswire.org/jsword Troy - perhaps we should link to it from somewhere? Joe. Jimmie Houchin wrote: Hello, Is the JSword backend code available via download or cvs

[sword-devel] Sword license

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
I have a question about the Sword license. From what I see the source code is GPL. In many instances I have no problem with the GPL. In general I have no problem with Sword being GPL. If I read the Sword/JSword source code and from that design/information write (port would be accurate?) classes

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 09:19 AM 1/16/2003 -0500, Patrick Narkinsky wrote: Thus spake "Jerry Hastings"> : > Turning on and off red letters may just be > "presentation," (changing color only), but in theory it could be changing > from "saying" these are the words of Jesus," (red), to "maybe these are the > words of Je

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Little
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: > I am not understanding the need of reading the binary indexes. If I can > read the text and produce the text appropriately for the frontend to > render to the user, then why do I need the indexes? Can't I create my > own indexes based off the text?

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Joe Walker
www.crosswire.org/jsword Troy - perhaps we should link to it from somewhere? Joe. Jimmie Houchin wrote: Hello, Is the JSword backend code available via download or cvs? I am not finding it at Crosswire. I am very liking missing it somewhere. Thanks. Jimmie Houchin Joe Walker wrote: Jim

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Hello, Is the JSword backend code available via download or cvs? I am not finding it at Crosswire. I am very liking missing it somewhere. Thanks. Jimmie Houchin Joe Walker wrote: Jimmie Houchin wrote: The Java frontend, does it use the Sword libraries or will there be Java code for reading

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Joe Walker
Jimmie Houchin wrote: The Java frontend, does it use the Sword libraries or will there be Java code for reading Sword modules? There *is* Java code for reading Sword modules. JSword is split between frontend and backend in a similar way to Sword, so there is a JSword backend that reads Swor

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Similar to what others have suggested, you might think of just doing an OSIS reader and not try to read Sword modules. There are quite a few of them and you'll need to be quite familiar with C++ in order to understand the code that reads/writes them. Naive question aler

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Daniel Russell
I agree with that philosophy, but it was suggested by another that there should be no philosophies stopping the addition of features that give users power. That opinion was stated unconditionally. I am just pointing out that we need philosophies that set some limits. As I said before I really

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: You mean I can't reverse engineer them from the text markup itself? You can try, but you will probably fail. It's not markup that poses a problem. The markup is just other people's standards that we make use of. The problem is

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread porton
> > Similar to what others have suggested, you might think of just doing an > > OSIS reader and not try to read Sword modules. There are quite a few of > > them and you'll need to be quite familiar with C++ in order to understand > > the code that reads/writes them. > > Naive question alert... >

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 09:46 AM 1/16/2003 +, Martin Gruner wrote: > Turning on and off red letters may just be > "presentation," (changing color only), but in theory it could be changing > from "saying" these are the words of Jesus," (red), to "maybe these are the > words of Jesus," (black). Not really. It is ch

[sword-devel] Java APIs. was: Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Joe Walker
Chris wrote: The Java frontend, does it use the Sword libraries or will there be Java code for reading Sword modules? JSword is implementing routines to read Sword modules natively in Java. I don't know their progress, but it's a big task. There's also an advantage in porting from C++

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Patrick Narkinsky
Thus spake "Chris Little"> : > Like I proposed that we might do for Sword, he could consider building > indexes into the OSIS XML files. It would be relatively simple to build > an index that catalogues the start and end point of each identified > osisID, for example. This would mean you only ha

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Little
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Jimmie Houchin wrote: > You mean I can't reverse engineer them from the text markup itself? You can try, but you will probably fail. It's not markup that poses a problem. The markup is just other people's standards that we make use of. The problem is reading the binary in

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread porton
> Thus spake "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> : > > > Why we don't use a database library (db1/db2/db3, are to bloated and so I > > think not acceptable), but there are also several other similar formats? I > > recommend to switch to such a database in a future version of Sword instead of > > our own messed c

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Little
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Similar to what others have suggested, you might think of just doing an > > OSIS reader and not try to read Sword modules. There are quite a few of > > them and you'll need to be quite familiar

[sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
If I am able I will write Squeak access to Sword Modules. If that is not successful or possibly even if it is, I can interface the Sword libraries as either a plugin or via FFI. The Squeak frontend I want. How I access the Sword Modules is flexible. Thanks. Jimmie Houchin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wro

[sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Chris Little wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be interesting to see if the Sword Module system stabilizes in light of OSIS. The above statement was actually mine. Sword will not be dropping any module formats as a result of OSIS. OSIS is being used as an import form

[sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Jimmie Houchin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the Sword project provided OSIS modules for all its text that would be fine. With OSIS there is a spec to go by. I could start there within Squeak. If I needed to interface the Sword libraries then I could. I would have to be willing to limit access to those platforms

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread porton
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Similar to what others have suggested, you might think of just doing an > OSIS reader and not try to read Sword modules. There are quite a few of > them and you'll need to be quite familiar with C++ in order to understand > the code that reads/wr

[sword-devel] Russian text

2003-01-16 Thread porton
I've found several texts in Russian which seemingly claim to be free (Ancient Greek->Russian, Hebrew<->Russian, and less interesting Bible dictionaries and something I don't remember). These are in format of the program Lingvo (www.lingvo.ru) for Windows, which is Russian<->[whatever] dictionar

Re: [sword-devel] module rpm's for sword

2003-01-16 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 16 January 2003 07:03 am, Brook Humphrey wrote: > With my lack of programming ability and the fact that modules are still > needed on the tlinus boxes I have recently repackaged allot of the modules ^ linux ^ > for

[sword-devel] module rpm's for sword

2003-01-16 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 With my lack of programming ability and the fact that modules are still needed on the tlinus boxes I have recently repackaged allot of the modules for linux. I have put them into rpm format and wouls love to upload them but allas I have no write per

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Patrick Narkinsky
Thus spake "Jerry Hastings"> : > Turning on and off red letters may just be > "presentation," (changing color only), but in theory it could be changing > from "saying" these are the words of Jesus," (red), to "maybe these are the > words of Jesus," (black). You seem to have in mind the Jesus semi

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Patrick Narkinsky
Thus spake "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> : > Why we don't use a database library (db1/db2/db3, are to bloated and so I > think not acceptable), but there are also several other similar formats? I > recommend to switch to such a database in a future version of Sword instead of > our own messed code, which i

Re: [sword-devel] Re: [sword-devel]Squeak Sword UI

2003-01-16 Thread Chris Little
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It will be interesting to see if the Sword Module system stabilizes in > > light of OSIS. Sword will not be dropping any module formats as a result of OSIS. OSIS is being used as an import format at the moment. In the future, we might base addit

RE: ESV was Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and Step

2003-01-16 Thread Mark Ayliffe
Trevor Jenkins wrote on 13 January 2003 17:57: > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Daniel Glassey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> From http://www.gnpcb.org/page/esv_faq/ >> Is there an electronic edition? What about the free CD-ROM? >>Every classic reference and thinline edition

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Martin Gruner
> Turning on and off red letters may just be > "presentation," (changing color only), but in theory it could be changing > from "saying" these are the words of Jesus," (red), to "maybe these are the > words of Jesus," (black). Not really. It is changing between "highlight the words of Jesus accor

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 05:21 PM 1/15/2003 -0500, David's Mailing List and Spam Receiver wrote: >...There is already a problem with > other software of people quoting and wrongly crediting the quote to an > author instead of the software and its creators. We should be careful not > to become part of that problem. Sor

Re: [sword-devel] New filter for red letter words

2003-01-16 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 08:09 PM 1/15/2003 -0800, Daniel Russell wrote: ...If a module is suppose to contain the text of a work of a certain author. but options and filters in the software produce a derivative text of it, users may quote that derivative text as the words of that author Jerry I thought that w